I do blame the cookie thread sometimes
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It’s not bad
VOTE: cattail it’s album of the year. sorry
For like my first year I did not have a town win
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How do you feel about the economy
Maybe I’m just really rusty, but I’m actively having trouble actively comprehending the current early gamestate, and most of the posts I read make my eyeballs glaze over.
Let me post some wider level observations.
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I understand where people are coming from with how they’re saying tutuu is wolfy for being stilted/awkward and conforming to a playbook of trying to appear town rather than actually be town. I have virtually no meta to work off of but I have enjoyed reading their posts because they actually make a fair amount of sense to me and I agree with them on a number of reads. So I feel fine with tutuu at the moment; I don’t really want to execute them D1 unless someone shows me their playstyle is very polarized between scum and town.
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Agree with tutuu on Hippo and Terminator townreads; Hippo feels fairly relaxed and he feels like he’s marching to the beat of his own drum which is on par with how I’ve played with him in the past. I like how Terminator has interacted with two of his primary wolfreads (tutuu and Altina) - it feels like he’s evaluating both of them somewhat on a fair weather axis but also is making his scumreads on both pretty clear.
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With Wisp/Altina and catbae, pretty content to like just interact with them a lot D1 to get a clear sense of how they’re approaching the game and then trying to narrow down their alignment on subsequent days when we have flips. I forgot how to read Wisp and he’s gotten so much better as a mafia player since I’ve last played with him regularly, and if catbae is a wolf I’m not going to get there on him until much, much later in the game.
I will say that both of them being kinda floaty and not really trying to push agenda or direction early on gives me like the slightest positive indicator for both of them since I feel like they would have some internal pressure to lead as wolf, but that’s a really loose read.
Gonna be out for the evening but will try to look at more things before bed.
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Town has a low win rate everywhere
/Shrug
Tbh me and Gira did a great job of bouncing each other in our last town game together, and so far I have no reason to think they are town again, at least for now. Same goes for you, so I would happily accept this town circle, especially given we all have different ways of looking at players and the thread state
No reason to think they aren’t* town
I’m headed home now, gunna give myself a bit to relax and eat, and read up, and then I’ll likely thread camp for a couple hours or the rest of the night, till I sleep
Yeah Prophy is town. Stronger town. Great post.
My independent scumread on Wisp was that I feel like he would be more doomering as town here. He just had a town game on MU where he was super frustrated with losing. Wisp takes losses deeply, and has taken losses on FoL deeply. I suspect that if he randed town on FoL, after a frustrating MU loss, it would be shown from his demeanor. I think he’s suspiciously positive and cheerful.
I may doomer somewhere down the line, it ain’t happening 5 hours into day 1. Maybe less likely in a bastard game, because these setups are just built to break me, so looking at them any other way, will just tilt me
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I believe the main reason that town tends to do poorly on FoL is that a majority of players play for their ego instead of to win. This is why I took issue with tutuu’s post: read accuracy is only one measure of skill, and if players always focus on only that, wolves will consistently win.
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Why did you sign up if you don’t like bastard games?
I’m fine with that, yeah. Both of you are players who I wouldn’t ever execute early, so happy to just talk shop and bounce things around.
Really? Huh.
In my experience Wisp wins a lot regardless of what alignment he rands so it’s surprising to me to hear him take losses deeply. Normally I’m the type of guy who does that (less so now, I’m kind of adopting the Sunbae approach of mafia where win or lose if it was a good game nothing matters).
Also, I just lost an anon game, where I voted a wolf all of day 2, and died wolf reading a wolf, it happens. I don’t care if I lose, I care if I believe people aren’t playing to the best of their ability, and specifically making it harder for me to win. Sure FoL may have those moments, and it has its fair share of players that I hate that I feel like I need to run circles around their posts to find them, but I’m not going to dwell on that, and rather just do my thing
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This is nonsense. Everybody who is a FoL regular knows that the overwhelming majority of us do not play Mafia with a high ego.
This has nothing to do with town losing games on FoL. It is not an issue, nobody has been doing this, myself included.
The main reason FoL towns lose is due to slanking / lack of desire to try / play.
Huh, interesting. When I was playing two years ago, FoL towns were losing because of 1) hyperposting, and 2) being unable to work as a team.
This has changed?
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I believe the former has but not the latter.