Odyssey to the Fortress of Lunacy - Day 4 (11/28)

nyaaa i literally am contributing

@catbae read starting here

comparing personal player meta from one game to another game is not the same as saying “hey this is a wolfy thing that wolves did in another game” and you know it

again, if you think litten’s case on someone is good that’s one thing but solely advancing it on blind “legacy” reasons is scummy

like what, what have you even done this game

VOTE: tutuu

bullshit argument - what exactly separates my reaction there as being “fake”? as either alignment i wouldn’t know who submitted the ability

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okay this is annoying

i acknowledge i have not had the best day in terms of gameplay or investment but i think tutuu’s arguments against me are exceedingly disingenuous. it’s especially annoying to be called scum in part because of preflip associatives with snowe - that’s not a reliable or good reason to scumcase someone - if snowe is town that part of the case against me is meaninless (and if snowe is mafia i’m wrong, sue me)

i don’t think rue’s push against me is bad faith even if i’m not sure where it’s coming from

may i thought was town but i have no idea right now

hippo and gummy are still town. chomps is town but is chompsing. pandora is a wolf

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This is a bastard gme

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i’m pretty used to being in this position where i fall off as town and it gets used to push me as scum but the arguments being presented are not even remotely good- base level hypocrisy arguments are not ‘nuance’, it’s just twisting words to make a bigger deal out of something than it actually is - i think there’s a reasonably clear scum motive in simply arguing to push people off a legacy without an actual salient case, while trying to meta someone off a single game is very often likely to produce inaccurate reads

tutuu is trying to argue these two points are inconsistent/contradictory and that makes me scum and that’s not how the game works

I have two main reasons for suspecting you. One is your D1 pushes, which by your own admission were not very good - I just think they were wolfy not-very-good. I think the Jarek push was fine and I don’t have issues with your snowe defense, but you parked your vote on meme for a long time while commenting about how things he did were NAI at several points, and I think your posting around T3 was awkward.

My other reason is that it feels like you haven’t been consistent with your reads. I don’t think that’s a wolftell in general, but I think in the way you’ve done it it has. You called pandora slight town on D1 and are now pushing her for a lack of content despite acknowledging that that wasn’t alignment indicative for her. You called Wazza a wolf at EoD1 and have done nothing with that.

I’m not completely sold on you being a wolf, and honestly I don’t think you’ve warranted such a large wagon, but these are the issues I have with you.

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sigh

i guess that is fair

I had the same thought earlier which is why I wasn’t pushing you but then I was like wait. Something like that which isn’t what it says it is would be like primo wolf ability

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…why specifically me?

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i am trying to re evaluate today specifically because i feel like i was off the mark on day 1, and part of that re evaluation is going to involve reassessing who i could have been potentially miclearing

this is actually something i get pushed for all the time as town

okay that’s towny

Would you say it’s something that shows itself in your scum game too?

i’m not sure i can explain that in public without fully spilling the beans, idk if you care at all or not

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Mmm don’t spill the beans it’s not that useful to know

eh not as often? i’m usually able to maintain consistency. in team mafia on MS i nearly got eliminated day 1 specifically because of this, t3 ironically kept accusing me of not believing my reads

Maybe if you’re gonna get executed but sheug

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okay fair

un the vaguest terms possible i think there was a discussion when i was backup modding the game with zug that made me think you’d be a good target

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