Odyssey to the Fortress of Lunacy - Day 4 (11/28)

The only time I remember Ash doing a wall readslist catchup is when he was mafia. Sample size N=1, though. I’m also clueless on how to find town!Ash (as in, in general)

idk if youre asking me but i think this post personally is NAI
obviously the blessing thing is his role regardless of alignment and given that it’s already claimed he’s gonna play it towards town regardless of his alignment

id give him like a 40% chance of being a wolf with my current confidence i just do not understand the thought process at all behind his vote on mkp

shrugze

:slightly_smiling_face:

Like this from tutuu. Pretty non-self aware response to Rue’s question in a way that essentially abdicates all thread power tutuu has which I don’t think is something you give up if you’re a wolf here.

Who do you think the wolves are, and why?

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It’s my passive. It wasn’t my choice.

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I don’t ever remember seeing mafia chat, after dieing as town on this site.
But when I was mafia, I wasn’t removed from mafia chat, just couldn’t talk with other mafia members.

It could be MKP saying weird way that they don’t want to die, but…

Okay, Memeking read-through.

  • He has some pride in this points system he’s using which is like, slightly +rand to be town? I feel like if you just came back out from a wolf game and randed wolf again you would not try to rock the boat maybe but he seems weirdly pridefully attached to this points thing he’s using.

  • It’s a little weird to me that he’s reading very deeply into RVS votes. I feel like if you’re catching up you would want to react to the most content-filled posts rather than people’s openers.

  • It seems like MKP actually believed T3M’s claimed D1 post restriction? And of course he believed Frostwolf’s claimed red check? So right now I’m trying to figure out if town or wolf MKP would just snap believe mech stuff people would put into the thread. Like, this seems a little incongruous…?

He clearly knows this game is a bastard game but he immediately believes the N0 check rather than treat it with a healthy dose of skepticism?

Lots of mech talk in the middle of this wallpost here.

MKP relying on past games to make reads here feels a little townie to me?

They’re buddying up hard to me.

Okay, they acknowledge that it could be false here but they’re still voting T3R here because of the red check. MKP voting T3R here is I feel laziness on their behalf (here are some reads but I’m going to vote the red check that I believe to be true). My question is, it is town lazy or wolf lazy?

This weird prideful thing regarding the points still reads as a little townie to me.

This is clearly MKP making a joke and not him just claiming wolf outright, right? This is responding to Kelsier saying “Virtuous” and I don’t really understand the context behind this joke.

Okay, this post is much worse now that I have more context behind it.

He’s strawmanning the votes on him by saying “I’m getting pushed because I suggested to sleep?” which I’m pretty sure is not the reason why most of the people were wolfreading him in the first place. I also think that “why am I being pressured for X reason this game when in past games it wasn’t a big deal” is a bit of a wolfy mindset. He does this twice with the sleep thing and “why am I being pressured when other people are being voted for shitposting”

This is like, a little townie, but the fact that he said this and hasn’t really followed up (also kind of failed to provide a wolfread at all) makes me think that he’s trying to emulate a town reaction to getting pressured or maybe got told to say this in wolfchat.


I was a little ping-pongy with MKP prior to his reaction to pressure (which looked good out of context and doesn’t look good at all with context, jeez, context is so powerful in mafia). Looking at his reaction to pressure in a different lens, yeah he might probably be a wolf.

Not really seeing how he’s interested in solving, Litten asked him who the wolves are and he was like “look at my points system” which is not the way you push for your worldview and execute wolves.

VOTE: Memekingpizza

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Agree with entirety of post, was townreading MKP vaguely for exactly reasons mentioned here and knew other posts looked kinda bad but hadn’t thought about them very much. I can 100% see the case from posts quoted, I’m not fully convinced over Ash but I get it

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I think I feel a little… hesitant on it because this kind of weird was something I didn’t see MKP really being in FAM5? From what I remember. He didn’t have those obvious off-kilter stances there. The fact that he’s rocking the boat is appreciated. The strawmanning of the votes in particular kinda feels like somebody who sincerely believes they’ve got backing

Okay, I didn’t realize these posts meant to be read in pair, when I was reading MKP’s ISO.
I still think it’s weird way to express you don’t want to die, even if it is meant to be a joke.

(also MKP’s reaction to my vote wasn’t that it was a joke expression, instead they were questioning why I don’t think they don’t want to die… so they probably didn’t even realize what happened.)

You are free to form your own opinion on what you believe is wolf in here, it doesnt mean the red is guaranteed wolf but likely candidate for -one-

The vibe I’m getting the most out of his ISO is “laziness”.

Like, he tries to analyze people’s first posts rather than look at things that may be more alignment indicative, he immediately sees a N0 red check in a bastard game and defaults to believing it rather than look for wolves or produce a single behavioral wolfread on someone, when Litten asks him who he thinks the wolves are he goes “look at my points system”.

Is this just… gullible town that’s phoning it in, or a wolf, is what I’m asking myself. Right now, leaning towards the latter until he produces more readable content.

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Vote Count


Memekingpizza (6): tutuu, Hippopablompoyeetus, Frostwolf103, O.kazo, Chomps, Prophylaxis
O.kazo (3): Rue, Jarek, snowe
Altina (2): T3RMINATOR, Wazza
T3RMINATOR (2): Cattail_5.0, Memekingpizza
Ash (2): Litten, catbae
Wazza (1): May
Frostwolf103 (1): Kelsier

Not Voting (10): Cattail_IV, Hazardwaste, iamagummybear, Liattac_VI, meowl, Relm, Ash, Ruby, pandora, Altina

This post just feels good was about to accuse him of owning the ability of the announcement but nvm missread it
@snowe not visiting is always an option from what i can see the blessing is an negative

so like is one of us going to die now or

You are yellow now enjoy

awesome…

what is the question you want me to answer or thing you want me to respond to
or did you just ping me because you thought it was funny

no

Thunder actually doesn’t harm you if you are town so it doesn’t really matter that much for you if you are good. Thus you are the perfect test subject

What you mean to say is yes it will kill me so evils have no reason to attack either of us tonight :smiley:

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