Odyssey to the Fortress of Lunacy - Day 4 (12/28)

[Altina]

went through their iso, slot can go in “would kill day 1” pile

[Hazardwaste]

Frustrating. I am going to work

[tutuu]

Town:

Tutuu
May
Gummy
Litten
Catbae
Hippo
Chomps

[Litten]

@T3RMINATOR

i feel like tuutuu is bleeding tmi and is really awkward, i think Rue and catbae saw this too. idk if that qualifies as “pretty obvious” or not

Elaborate

[catbae]

i can never read chomps so i’m just gonna sheep the people who believe he’s town

[Rue]

I’ve been wondering about this, too. It’s definitely not a coincidence given what color it is.

[Litten]

I think the reason Okazo feels suspicious to people is that they are using information they know about their role in order to push on meme and I think some people didn’t read through the lines on that. Which, I guess now that I know it’s Marluna, would fit their motto, but I don’t think it’s inherently suspicious. I also don’t really understand why mafia would know that if I read through the lines enough, so I don’t even agree with their implied reasons

[catbae]

mmm i definitely did not pick up on that implication, makes the vote make more sense in context

i don’t think it’s outside her range as mafia but can definitely see her playing this way as town

[Ash]

Effectively nothing new.

Ash Reads

Townreads:

• Tutuu - I feel like I’ve spoken at length about his slot before, but w!Tutuu avoids drawing negative attention in the way Tutuu this game hasn’t cared about attracting.
• Rue - I went back and forth on this slot for far too long and have decided that she’s town. I don’t agree with her entire ISO - I think there was too much of a concentration on Tutuu, and I don’t really vibe with her SoD somewhat being that discussion regarding the Damsel passive is pointless - but I don’t think any of her arguments have been made in bad faith. w!Rue would have been more sticky on her Gummy and Snowe pushes, less prone to reevaluating and more pushy on getting them through. The Gummy push in particular doesn’t feel like the easy target that I imagine w!Rue would seek out.

Townleans:

• May - Backread Multivote Mountainous, and May has similar vibes from that town game as he does here, namely a similar opening and a similar (albeit not quantified) approach to analysis. Also backread their wolf play D1 and D2 in Anime Mafia from QBCord and noted that he’s significantly different from that game, for what little that’s worth.

Kelsier (Bit More Complicated)

Been going back and forth on this slot a lot. There’s only one real thing to analyze from this slot, and that’s their response to Frost’s gag redcheck on T3 and Gummy’s shield on Hazard + T3.

Like, he immediately believes it:

@Kelsier

Anyways VOTE: T3RMINATOR

Unbelieves it as soon as he returns to thread:

@Kelsier

UNVOTE
-1+1

@Kelsier

Anyways theres a green check on term i believe from gummy?

Then asks Gummy directly for more clarity on the nature of their Hazard/T3 shield.

@Kelsier

@/iamagummybear do you have a greencheck on either hazard or term

And then turns on Frost:

@Kelsier

VOTE: Frostwolf103
Not enough pursuit after fake redcheck

I townread the immediate turnaround on T3, and the “asking Gummy for more info on her check” part makes me think this slot is town.
Specifically, he doesn’t ask for the nature of Gummy’s check outside of ‘is it a greencheck’, and I remember reading this slot and specifically thinking that if I’m w!Kelsier facing Gummy (regardless of alignment) and want to push the idea of w!T3rminator, I would try and raise doubts about Gummy’s thing, try and probe for info regarding the nature of her defense.
Instead, he just takes it at face value and runs the other direction, and I think that’s towny, if moderately silly.

Future Ash Note: I guess I could see w!Kelsier do this as well, but only with w!Gummy? It feels like too good an opportunity for w!Kelsier to pass up otherwise. In effect, w!Kelsier requires w!Gummy (I don’t entirely trust my ability to read Gummy, but she seems towny enough).

• Litten - I haven’t had the urge to shoot him yet, so probably town.

[catbae]

@O.kazo

Hippo wants us believe the announcement is fake and making low-wagons.

Who else want to bet, that the transmutation is his ability?

this is kind of a towny post, it’s a very slight read but i do like it a bit

[tutuu]

Im tinfoiling Prophy mafia because he suspected Okazo for only talking about his role and earlier Prophy agreed with my townread on Okazo which was that he believes in his role. It’s not exactly a contradiction, but sort of. 30% or so of a contradiction. Assuming Okazo is town of course

[Prophylaxis]

@Litten

I don’t understand what you are seeing Proph. Meme can do better than what they are currently doing if they wish to get town read. I don’t really understand their play. The ATE paragraph doesn’t do anything for me as I imagine mafia meme would write a similar post.

I’m, not even wolf reading it neccesary, I’m just, kinda dumbfounded by this approach. To make a wall post which is hardly readable, advocate to sleep, then ask for people to consider their reads if they are executed, what reads? Please push a player that isn’t based off false mechanical information such as terminator so I can figure out whether your reads are agenda, have merit to them, or whatever. I even asked who you are suspecting and you ignored it

Hmm, yeah you’re probably right in that I’m getting suckered into the AtE-ness of that post. I somehow just slept for 5 hours after a workday so let me try and review him more holistically once I finish catching up on the past 400 posts.

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I am not really sure if Wisp can fake his annoyance/frustration with others at being wolfread as wolf here but the more he gets pressured the more I’m seeing his indignation ring out.

@Altina

even if the case is this is somewhat else’s doing, which i highlighted, I still ask myself why, why snowe, snowe isn’t even townie player as it stands, and lets also assume blessing of immortality makes some KP immune, with 26? players, i can expect a lot of deaths, and if snowe is a wolf, where do they go but another wolf

honestly I just fail to see the problem with my thoughts, TMI is such a lame shallow accusation, because you really dont know how my mind thinks, but given my explanation above its either u believe it or dont, until u see my flip, or you know read my posts

I’d rather this game not turn into christmas mafia 2.0, there is enough people on the lower end of actual content, which statistically a game of theis size is bound who 2 or 3 wolves at minimum in that for people to be paranoid of me.

ohh well

I feel like Wisp accusing others they don’t know how he thinks is a townie Wisp thing to do? I haven’t spectated any wolf games from him in a hot second but I feel like he’s more mercurial rather than emotionally driven when it comes to pressure.

[Prophylaxis]

@tutuu

Im tinfoiling Prophy mafia because he suspected Okazo for only talking about his role and earlier Prophy agreed with my townread on Okazo which was that he believes in his role. It’s not exactly a contradiction, but sort of. 30% or so of a contradiction. Assuming Okazo is town of course

I lightly townread O.kazo early in the game for role-related stuff. It’s been more than 24 hours and O.kazo has basically only talked about mech plus the vote on Memeking. I’m going to let that light townread die if said person doesn’t provide more content throughout the day.

Though I forgot that O.kazo was Marluna so let me think a bit on that. Marluna was a very easy townread the last game I played with them.

[Altina]

i just fail to see why this post comes from a wolf? but im also kinda waiting for kazo to answer snow’s question as to why they picked them, since im taking this as basically claiming, iso also isnt as bad as i originally thought on reread

this being marluna means little to me since its been a long while since i played with them

[Prophylaxis]

@Altina

I think someone accused me of being one of the weakest top posters, which its pretty sad that I somehow managed that on FoL with my schedule, but it also doesnt make me a wolf, and again with 26 players, being paranoid of someone who is invested and also the top poster, when we have a handful of garbage is mind blowing

Gonna go out on a limp and say that Wisp doesn’t react this emotionally/pridefully to pressure if he’s a wolf here. As wolf I know he’s always focused on how to win, but here he’s just kind of spazzing out and not really caring how bad on the surface he’s looking.

Wisp, if you’ve learned how to fake this or if this is now a wolftell for you then congrats man, but I’ll trust you for now.

Also I don’t think Wazza/Wisp are wolves together - wolf Wazza randomly picking a fight with wolf Wisp over a mech announcement would be extremely bizarre.

[tutuu]

The only time I remember Ash doing a wall readslist catchup is when he was mafia. Sample size N=1, though. I’m also clueless on how to find town!Ash (as in, in general)

[snowe]

idk if youre asking me but i think this post personally is NAI
obviously the blessing thing is his role regardless of alignment and given that it’s already claimed he’s gonna play it towards town regardless of his alignment

id give him like a 40% chance of being a wolf with my current confidence i just do not understand the thought process at all behind his vote on mkp

shrugze

[Prophylaxis]

@tutuu

I dont feel confident leading, I dont feel confident in pushing Memeking, and in general Id prefer if other people lead

Like this from tutuu. Pretty non-self aware response to Rue’s question in a way that essentially abdicates all thread power tutuu has which I don’t think is something you give up if you’re a wolf here.

@Ash

Effectively nothing new.

Who do you think the wolves are, and why?

[O.kazo]

It’s my passive. It wasn’t my choice.

[O.kazo]

I don’t ever remember seeing mafia chat, after dieing as town on this site.
But when I was mafia, I wasn’t removed from mafia chat, just couldn’t talk with other mafia members.

It could be MKP saying weird way that they don’t want to die, but…