Ritual Mafia V - Game Over - Heretics and Traitor Win

[Zone_Q11]

Since I can’t shock, I guess I’ll have to get me another scumread… Eh. It shouldn’t be difficult.

[Dum]

@Zone_Q11

Since I can’t shock

Unironic answer, can you please translate

[Zone_Q11]

Hey Dum. Mind if I bother you at night?

[Zone_Q11]

No. I am breadcrumbing my role.

[Dum]

nope. i’ll gladly be the N1 kill so I can be a nuisiance to society in spec chat and take absolutely no blame if we lose, and all the credit for having sick reads if we win

[Dum]

Ok @ElizaThePsycho when this is over im murdering you

I went to read the setup to try and see if zones breadcrumbs make sense and I just noticed you dragged me into a game with conversion roles

Im never trusting you blindly again

[Zone_Q11]

Cool.
Thanks for the consent.

*checks roles*
Man. Blood Mage is cool.
…well. Then again, that ability is a Ritual ability, so I’d have to be sacrificed for that, which -considering other Ritual abilities- I will probably never be. (It’s a thing you’d only do to Town.)

[Frostwolf103]

@Zone_Q11

@Brakuren

@Frostwolf103

I am asking YOU

Just watch by the sidelines

Meanwhile, 5 minutes ago:

@Brakuren

Whose conversation am I shutting down?

I am wolf reading you for a statement that you made, is this not furthering the conversation

That’s not what’s going on, trust.

[Leafia]

Oh yeah. This started, didn’t it? Just.woke up from a nice nap.

@Geyde

Going to repost this tomorrow but I still believe everything in the post.
Keep a cool head guys. The game gets much much harder starting tomorrow.

let’s have some fun (this is cope)

Reminding us of that in his opener feels >rand v.

@O.kazo

Let’s all of us have a fun time.

Agreed.

@Geyde

Write goddamn logs. Please write your goddamn logs. Say what your role is, at the bare minimum.

This gives me an eerie feeling, like Geyde wants to rolehunt or something, but I’ll admit it isn’t the worst of advice, so that might be just me.

@Geyde

• At this point, wolves have a lot of interruption and claims will help them sus out LW and we don’t get that much in return.

Solution

Don’t claim today. Please write your logs.

This alleviates some of my suspicion though.

@Geyde

That’s everything that I had prepped now to collapse on the floor due to terminal lumbago (it is a Will Wood reference)

Geyde can have a slight townlean from all of that. I think it’s protown to post all of that, but it can be faked though but I’m not sure a scum would go that far this early on to look villagery.

@Bionic

Brakuren - Evil
Someone - Good
Bionic - Neutral
Leafia - Evil
Ash - Strong tole
Zone_Q11 - Weak role
Frostwolf103 - Good and the n1 kill
SirDerpsAlot - Neutral
Hippopablompoyeetus - Evil
ElizaThePsycho - NK
Dum - Weak role
guavagudetama - Good
otterpopd - Good but the d1 lynch
Magnus - Good
Hazardwaste - Evil
O.kazo - Strong role
Geyde - Good

Seems to me that Bionic is trying way too hard to be silly and appealing, although he tends to feel scummy most games he’s in with me, so I’m only giving him a slim scumlean.

He can share it with O.Kaso who has the same feel to him.

@Brakuren

Anyways I’m Mason

Last time Brak claimed this was last game where he was a wolf. Not sure he’d claim it as a wolf again though, but it might be him trying to signal to groupscum that he’s the traitor. I’ll need to keep an eye on him just in case.

@Brakuren

Disagree heavily with this idea. Asking to be sacrificed is anti-town

I disagree actually. Town getting sacrificed is good. That way, they can use their ritual abilities to help town.

@Dum

From reading the roles, I agree, there’s no role that justifies asking to be sacrificed except in some highly specific circunstances

So you’d rather sacrifice a heretic?

@Frostwolf103

Or rather, Brakuren. I am not going to trust people blindly just because they seem to have good ‘intentions’, you understand.

This feels slightly villagery somehow.

@Brakuren

Everyone in the knights errant game is going to be mega sus of me because I deep wolfed lol

True.

@Brakuren

Anyways, very temporary read list for the purpose of discussion:
LT = Light Town
LW = Light Wolf

LT: Frost Bionic
LW: Dum

This feels villagery. Willing to move Brak back to null for now.

@guavagudetama

I’m sick which means I have like infinity time to be on rn

I hope you feel better soon.

@Zone_Q11

I forget how I play.
Not forgot; forget. I am still forgetting.

Willing to givebthis a slim townlean for amusing me.

@Zone_Q11

…why is Dum voting himself?

No idea.

@Geyde

came here to play this game though not take a history class

Giggles

@Brakuren

Honestly.

This is probably a better vote
VOTE: Zone_Q11

Doubt it. Already, Zone just has a villagery feel to him. I’m also pretty good at reading him, so I’m willing to call him town for now.

@Brakuren

Thank you for outing yourself LHF as wolf with such a terrible reaction

LHF is by definition town.

Not sure why a wolf would act the way Brak is acting now so willing to give the Brak v. Zone debate a TvT read. Both of you. Hunt wolves. I suspect you could both be town right now.

@Geyde

you talk like arctic but like
even more bullheaded
so
I want you to act in alignment indicative ways
or to get your process so I can attempt to make a read

This feels villagery.

@O.kazo

This just shows that you read only partially, what you are agendaing this time.

• Know your opponent. Don’t make the mistake of assuming too quickly that a player wouldn’t be capable of doing something as a wolf.
• Look at the big picture. Don’t read too much into a person’s specific wolfy posts if they contradict their general in-thread appearance.
• Make sure you can see a wolf motivation behind a player’s given action before wolf reading them for it.
• Study the opening pages and EODs very carefully, that’s often where the wolves show their true face.
• Don’t be afraid to mix things up and push some buttons. Wolves feel most uncomfortable in scenarios they don’t expect to be in.

These are words to live by.

@Zone_Q11

My conclusion is: Brakuren’s probably Town, but he’s tunneling in whatever he doesn’t like (which, ironically was my plan for this game) so -me being a hypocrite- I won’t let him live even if he is Town.

So anyhow, on to checking Bionic.

Zone townread intensifies.

@Zone_Q11

Well that was a disappointing ISO. Bionic isn’t getting himself involved in the discussion. He just plays around with the thread, wagons, plays around with guava, pushes Geyde for “gut feeling” (which is worse compared to Brakuren, because at least Brakuren gave reasons to scumread), and then doesn’t want me to check his ISO.

It just reeks of scum; waiting and seeing, not getting involved in anything until an opportunity arrives, and then avoiding getting heat.

I’m not so sure. I remember Bionic acting like that as a villager too. So I’m putting him at null for now.

@Dum

O.kazo is literally a wolf for that post and I find it very interesting they have continued to avoid me ever since i brought it up

Would you please explain the wolfreads that you have?

@Brakuren

Town wouldn’t care whether or not someone didn’t understand a read.

Not actually true. Everyone wants people to understand their reads, especially villagers.

@Zone_Q11

Geyde Town because same frustration handling with Brakuren. O.kazo null because there was nothing of interest.

Willing to agree that Geyde feels villagery but not too sure about O.Kaso.

@Zone_Q11

Uh… I remember people being able to tell relatively easy whether I am town or not. These are the people who have played with me though. (From what I’ve seen in this game, at least Frost, Eliza, and Dum have experience playing with me.)

And me.

@Dum

@Leafia get in here see you playing catchup

Almost caught up.

There. Caught up.

[Dum]

@Leafia

Would you please explain the wolfreads that you have?

I know for a fact you read the post where I explained my one wolfread why are you asking me this

[Zone_Q11]

…? You’re defending him?

[Dum]

hell its half of my ISO at this point

[Dum]

@Leafia

No idea.

because im jester

[Dum]

@Leafia

So you’d rather sacrifice a heretic?

I would because a dead heretic is stilla dead heretic

or at least thats what I would say until I saw there are fucking conversion roles

[Zone_Q11]

Okay, yeah. Leafia Town.

[Brakuren]

@Leafia

LHF is by definition town.

Not sure why a wolf would act the way Brak is acting now so willing to give the Brak v. Zone debate a TvT read. Both of you. Hunt wolves. I suspect you could both be town right now.

I didn’t mean to say “LHF” here btw I am typing on phone so I have no idea how it got there. Remove me “LHF” and the sentence makes sense

[Brakuren]

@Zone_Q11

Okay, yeah. Leafia Town.

A wolf siding one

[Dum]

why are we town reading leafia for doing what leafia does pmuch every game (unless my memory is betraying me)

[Bionic]

Nuh uh :3

[Leafia]

You have more than one wolfread Brak. You only explained one of them.