Serpent and the Swordsman - Day 4 [6/15]

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#7528

if artemis town alongside these earlier speculations - jarek’s fake claimiming exorcist. that means he’s w/w with litten. i dont know the fourth wolf, could be a lot of people

another world im wary of - baker demon. no kills n3 either because baker demon and/or artemis minstrel stopped. jarek claims exorcist. litten green check. they dont have to be both mafia. they could be both town - but then this is fucked. mafia have unnecessarily bussed. baker, magnus, may, bionic/someone? hazard? silviu?

if today is mm day, and lets say jarek is going out to chop me. because it’s me versus him. litten is supporting jarek (i think). otter town.

baker demon + jarek/litten/+1, with one of those being mastermind. also huli jing who de facto poisoned otter

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#7529

a world where jarek and litten are both town would have to mean 2/3 of magnus/baker/otter are mafia imo. i just dont believe it, if only 1/3 are

may/magnus/baker/otter ?

there is a very niche world where jarek town but litten mafia. i dont konw what his endgame is here though. he didnt feel like he is about to pounce on me and win due to mm day. so it doesnt feel like litten wolf + jarek town fits with baker demon world

let me consider baker town.

magnus/otter/jarek/litten or magnus/otter/jarek/+1 comes to mind. not artemis. actually im not sure why not artemis, that was the first thought that popped up and i felt confident but now i cant justify it if i think real hard. my brain is a bit fried im giving it my all

innkeeper also could explain no death. innkeeper could have stopped imp from self-deleting. i dont know who was innkept, though. i dont have full info and i think the amount of effort i’d need to spend to consider every permutation is just not worth, i mean its a game not a job :stuck_out_tongue:

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#7530

i cant really give confident and concrete worlds, i dont have info, and my thoughts are a bit chaotic sorry. trying my best. to summarize cliffs:

  • i am afraid of mm day, jarek with his sudden leap on me, litten with the green check soft on jarek

  • i am afraid that otter could have been town

  • i am afraid of jarek/someone/bionic not getting chopped, and then imp / pit hag jumping

oh yeah i didnt even think about courtier pithag. it would be very nice if we have a courtier who blocked pithag. i dont have guarantee that we do. if we dont have a courtier this is gonna be pain

if we no chop today and jarek/bionic/someone (or more people alongside any of those) die during the night - i think that incriminates litten and/or silviu and/or may

there is a world where we just no chop and we just win

i need help. i would urge us to chill out a bit on the secrecy and codes and put our cards on the table. im afraid that too much secrecy and we’re gonna fuck ourselves over. if u guys do wanna chop me after all because of jarek - please can you at least do that tomorrow? not today? it could be mm day - please dont bet the game on otter being mafia

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#7531

113 1132?

#7532

@otterpopd please if you’re town chime in. most of our worlds are based off u mafia. atlas is adamant u were mm and that we don’t need to worry about it. if u weren’t mm we are potentially throwing an easy win today based off what we do or don’t do

#7533

we only need 1 town alive to win. it doesnt matter if you mischop me to clear up some worlds. just please be wary of mm

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#7534

I don’t believe Litten has a greencheck on Jarek. We’ve been acting off a social dichotomy in regards to his behaviour across alignments, assuming he would act one way or another with discernible nuance.

#7535

i don’t know what’s 1132

#7536

132

#7537

I did had games beforehand where Jarek was just dead silent and was also just evil

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#7538

i suppose that’s possible. in that case artemis might be evil. i dont know. i have no clue what’s her role then

#7539

and finally @baker i wrote this for you. please read my earlier solve (whenever u can) and then this apology letter. please, consider working with me, friend

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#7540

134 140 —> 42/48 (no mention of the role sadly)

@tutuu

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#7541

Sob emoji, tutu is that based

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#7542

Tutuu, what did you just do?

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#7543

ZzzZZKZ DPPP-D -A - ; WHAT WAS THAT? WHAT DID I SAY? "ZzzZZKZ DPPP-D -A - " IS NOT A WORD. WHY DID I SAY THAT?

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#7544

This is so sweet, I can’t get over how sweet this is

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#7545

Okay, I’ll join in.

This opinion is generally fine. There is the world in which a Pit Hag changed the Demonhood N1 and, in Storyteller retribution, a Minion was killed off. This world doesn’t really work except in the case where one of these players was originally a Demon.

I’m generally of the opinion that both Otter and Baker are borderline confirmed evil from their own behaviour, with some mechanical know-how tossed in there to supplement the read.

These two worlds are mechanically the same, given that no Puzzlemaster has openly claimed and so both abilities would come from the same character.

In which case, the triple death could only occur from a Gambler + Gossip + Assassin or a Pit-Hag change, as the Demon’s kill would be discounted.

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#7546

That’s 3/3, rather than 2/3.

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#7547

Though a big question, if is ministrel game then why 3 people died after otter’s execution?