The beatings will continue until townplay improves - Night 1 - 10/11

[iamagummybear]

bro what is with the influx of gummy hatred my lord

[Zone_Q11]

4 years, 10 months, and a couple days; I figured I might as well round it up.

–also how come soweli has become Leafia?

[iamagummybear]

it’s 4 years and less than a month

it’s september rn…

[Zone_Q11]

Oh yeah. I math’ed wrong.
(Oh well. Time is not the reason why I voted you though.) ((Yeah! We voted you because we are the towniest town to ever town!))

[iamagummybear]

whatever you can have a town lean from me for being so silly

[soweli]

uhhh I think I’m legally obligated to say no. My townrange & wolfrange are kinda sillly like that in that various things go in and out in roughly cyclical fashion so you can probably find it if you want. I would say that a big part in informing my posts is that I’ve randed wolf. uh. a lot. recently to not necessarily great effect on the number of posts i’ve made.

for the meta dive (by recency you can do your best to request more)

I’m ad333 on AoPS, Sheepbutbad/akesi on MU

https://artofproblemsolving.com/community/c49h3548985_mafia_game_302 (probably more similar to this in that I at least believed myself to be more experienced than a lot of the players)
https://www.mafiauniverse.com/forums/threads/55031 (probalby my strongest wolf showing on MU recently. which uh. it’s bad.)
Flipless Purgatory - Town Victory! - #849 by FRink FoL wolf meta.

https://artofproblemsolving.com/community/c49h3407814 (most recent AoPS town game)
https://www.mafiauniverse.com/forums/threads/53153 (most recent quality MU town game but again take with salt)

AoPS is my homesite but also has really long phases & also often just a tremendous experience gap.

[Leafia]

I’m multiplying. Soon, everyone will become Leafia. Mwahahaha!

Soweli seems villagery enough to me too for now. Townlean. Calling it a night now too so good night everyone.

[soweli]

oh i forgot the simple thing of “i do actually tend to wallpost a lot on AoPS and sometimes on MU when i’m not losing my mind trying to read all the posts”

[Chomps]

don’t see the gummy wolf points, i think it just comes down to player style

[Chomps]

VOTE: Zone

[ImaginaryNeon]

Boo

[pandora]

@Zone_Q11

Rule of three. Rolling d3. Rolled a 3.

rule of three is bullshit rand is rule of 5 i just did that math

[pandora]

@soweli

I do think that Daeron’s criticisms are not quite valid in that gummy has in fact made townreads on me & pandora & explained read on me when prompted

yeah gummy is an awful vote

[Zone_Q11]

Bullshit it may be, but a great bullshit topic starter it still is; a good means to get people to talk. Case in point: You responded to it.

(Now why did you respond, I wonder? Is one of them your scumbuddy?)

[pandora]

@Leafia

@Daeron

VOTE: iamagummybear has made 28 posts and not a single read

until that changes my vote remains here

I’m willing yo sheep this for now. VOTE: Gummy

leafia sheeping objectively incorrect reasoning

[pandora]

@Zone_Q11

(Now why did you respond, I wonder? Is one of them your scumbuddy?)

interesting

[iamagummybear]

ty for going there

i had the same thought but.

i do not have the energy to take on leafia in a fight.

[pandora]

zone openly deliberating in thread is something i remember from ice cream where he was wolf and do not remember from projmoon where he was town. just saying

[iamagummybear]

uhm zone was wolf in projmoon

[Frostwolf103]

@pandora

@Frostwolf103 anything to add

@pandora

let’s execute all of the zeroposters

On mountainous vanilla game? No way! At least not far from the truth, its just not mafia indicative.

@Daeron

if chomps is mafia, soweli/gummy are T/T

@Daeron

gummy has started to wolf post

Newflash for Daeron, since nothing is certain about Chomps or Iamagummybear for Daeron, I take a look myself

@Chomps

soweli wl
gummy tl

@iamagummybear

how do people begin posting in d1

@soweli

I mean I’m special so I just do it; you can try RVS if you want

@iamagummybear

see i read you as town for being so hyperspecific about the fellow thing

bc i feel like mafia would just say fellow and post

but this is a really weak read and ive definitely said similar things as mafia

@soweli

hi fellow best town team 2025 members

(I said fellow because i initially omitted it but then I thought somebody was going to accuse me for acting as if i was not one; if i really cared i would write a different post)

Likewise Chomp’s judgement on gummybear and soweli at that time wasn’t anything worth to note, better than nothing sure.

But I also quoted Daeron

@iamagummybear

i don’t know what you’re saying here, sorry.

like the crux of the reason daeron is voting me is bc “i didn’t make any reads in my 28 posts” when i did and they were separate posts lol

so yes my argument is “you aren’t reading my posts” because if daeron had read my posts, he would have seen that i did in fact make reads lol

@iamagummybear

see i read you as town for being so hyperspecific about the fellow thing

bc i feel like mafia would just say fellow and post

but this is a really weak read and ive definitely said similar things as mafia

@Daeron

I mean I silently preface but not so silent now I need to make a point, but I silently preface these reads by appending them with ‘lean’ and also with the knowledge they were made before even 100 posts had been made

but your concern with your own posting above all else is a wolf tell, it’s like you’re speaking to yourself on an objective basis because you’re analysing your own town play, which wolves usually do in an attempt to appear as, well, their regular town play

@Daeron

VOTE: iamagummybear has made 28 posts and not a single read

until that changes my vote remains here

I shall join on that wagon and consider gummy is wolflean to me, but I will ignore the scale weighing Gummy wolf for Chomps/Soweli town because the two of them has yet to prove themselves town

VOTE: iamagummybear

@soweli

general plans to improve townplay?

In a way gummybear is like this too

@soweli

Daeron is literally posting thoughts i had but didn’t want to post right now i’m calling drama mill on him

@soweli

(ftr I was going at it from a slightly different, but quite similar angle of “gummy’s largely posting about thoughts that aren’t necessarily formulated within the context of the game”… though I also figured best practice was just to let it simmer around for a bit with gummy in particular since I didn’t see it being particularly productive to post right then.)

@soweli

uhh so this is the fun one where I should be saying “yeah daeron’s just town” but I don’t think I’ve seen anything that distinguishes his play from just “early-game setting up pushes on players” which is what I expect them to do as town. So null is the real answer but my heart is trying to say town.

@soweli

wait why I don’t like it because it’s not really progressing anything; like I thought about it earlier and I don’t really have any townreads, besides maybe Chomps

I think Daeron’s not fake on solving, unless it’s for the reasons that Daeron were pushing on something else, like gummy pointed out that Daeron would have seen Gummy made a weak townlean enough to be considered a read and Daeron’s accusation says ‘not a single read’

Also Soweli says ‘maybe’ at likely how he responded to Chomps “Soweli WL, Gummy TL”

@Chomps

awkward entrance and follow ups

@soweli

ok why does this mean i’m mafia

@Chomps

it doesn’t, they are reads made on like 20 posts

@Chomps

gummy is more natural

Chomps expanded the context from what he said earlier about the leans and that also means Soweli has incentive townleaning Chomps because he’s paying attention to the thread, although Soweli wasn’t sure if this is the right call seeing Chomps as town yet.

The last wallpost posted by Soweli can be summarized in these following words: Gummy, Daeron

@soweli

That being said I do think that Daeron’s criticisms are not quite valid in that gummy has in fact made townreads on me & pandora & explained read on me when prompted

@soweli

Ok so syllogistically you’re arguing

1. If Daeron had read your posts, they would know whether or not you have made reads
2. You have made reads
3. Daeron does not know that you have made reads
   Therefore Daeron did not read your posts. (roughly you can probably split it up differently and maybe correct-er-ly)

Also hi to everyone who skipped the wallpost lol