The beatings will continue until townplay improves - Day 2 - 9/11

[monkey]

D1 Final Votecount

Leafia (5): soweli, Zone_Q11, Frostwolf103, Daeron, Chomps
Daeron (3): ImaginaryNeon, pandora, Leafia
Chomps (2): Io-1, iamagummybear

Not Voting (1): childe

5 minutes to report any errors in your rolecards

[monkey]

@Leafia has been eliminated. She was…

Leafia

Vanilla Town

This orange and white cheese is a combination of orange Colby cheese and white Monterey Jack cheese. It’s often used on grilled sandwiches, cooked vegetables and other warm dishes because it melts well.

You are Vanilla Town. Your only weapons are your voice and your vote.

Win condition: Defeat the Mafia.

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Night 1 begins now, and ends in ~24 hours (5 PM EST). Action deadline is 1 hour before phase change.

pings

@pandora
@Chomps
@Daeron
@soweli
@ImaginaryNeon
@iamagummybear
@Io-1
@Zone_Q11
@Frostwolf103
@childe

[monkey]

During Night 1, @Frostwolf103 has been killed. He was…

Frostwolf103

Vanilla Town

Paneer is a fresh cheese often used in South Asian Cuisine. It’s moist and soft, crumbly in texture, and is made in a process similar to ricotta.

You are Vanilla Town. Your only weapons are your voice and your vote.

Win condition: Defeat the Mafia.

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Day 2 begins shortly, and ends at 2025-09-17T21:00:00Z

pings

@pandora
@Chomps
@Daeron
@soweli
@ImaginaryNeon
@iamagummybear
@Io-1
@Zone_Q11
@childe

[monkey]

Not Voting (9): pandora, Chomps, Daeron, soweli, ImaginaryNeon, iamagummybear, Io-1, Zone_Q11, childe

[pandora]

…
I hate all of you.

@Frostwolf103

I think I need to re-evaluate since I am no longer believing there’s a hit between Gummy, Leafia or Soweli.

agreement

@Daeron

I’m not so towny that it’s impossible to vote me
Your vote ie genuinely outing, pandora & Neon’s arent, but of them two pandora looks worse than Neon

I WAS TRYING TO GENERATE CONTENT AND THEN NOBODY ENGAGED

The point of tying a vote is to make people choose between one and the other. i didnt end up having the intended effect. that does not make me wolfy. This is a known technique on NL and i have done it before.

@Daeron

20 posts more than me and yet still has the entire thread bar gummy in their crosshairs
hasn’t actually attempted to create a PoE

@Daeron

leaving their positioning far too versatile
can just ‘go along’ with any execution with pretty much no commiting necessary

@pandora

I think one of the key things about reading me and my thoughts is that I’ve got like three other guys up here. And we all want to play mafia. And we all pretend to be pandora, mostly. My thoughts literally aren’t always accessable to me, and as long as inconsistency is (rightfully, mostly) treated as a wolftell I will probably keep my thoughts closer to my chest because what looks like weird progression is sometimes, like, a subjectively different person having different opinions

from a town game

@Zone_Q11

@Leafia

In fact, if I was a wolf, why would I switch to Daeron when I can get away with staying on Soweli? Soweli, the only possible world with me wolf has you as my partner right here. Consider that. And with how I’m a hardbusser, that isn’t even a very realistic world.

You’re a hardbusser. You said it yourself. Ergo, any argument about “why you vote” doesn’t matter.

this is HORRIBLE reasoning. Hardbussers have their own voting tendancies that you can analyze.

This whole end of day was horrible. I’m almost glad I fell asleep because holy shit

@Leafia

I’ve already stated both. If I was a wolf, why switch my vote? That makes absolutely no sense whatsoever. The beatings will only get worse if I’m exed because it’ll mean that townplay is getting worse, not better now get your votes on Daeron everyone! I’d bet money on him being a wolf here!

This is leafia towntelling. Wolf leafia clogs the fucking thread gish galloping so that nothng can get done. when she’s pleading and begging and recycling reasoning that means that she’s town

I think one of the things about townplay that has to get better is that nobody knows how to read fucking anyone

[pandora]

leafia was SO CLEARLY TOWN. Like she’s not playing very optimal town but “yeah i townlean zone which you’d know if you read me” mafia doesnt lie about this this is an organic opinion that she forgot to put in thread. mafia carefully establishes opinions and then checks them. there’s having no progression and then theres straight up forgetting what you’ve said and this was CLEARLY the latter. y’all

[Zone_Q11]

I don’t remember what happened anymore, but I did write something at SON1:

I guess the beatings will continue then!
(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻

Leafia, how tf did you– Urgh! Your play was so– Argh! It’s so bad!
[Zone went out to cool his head off for an unspecified amount of time.]

Sigh. Whatever. Let’s try and salvage what we can. Town can afford three mis-executions, so I guess this will be one of them.

I'm going to inspect the votes and the reasons behind them.

• soweli switched to Leafia because she scumread Leafia. Apparently it was partially because she sheeped Daeron’s and my reads. (P#713)
  I find it curious how she sheeped the read of the person she scumread (i.e., Daeron), but I don’t think soweli’s Mafia because of it.
• I voted Leafia because of prejudice at first, but then she blatantly lied. (P#757)
  Just read her and my EOD1 ISO if you still don’t understand my POV.
• Frostwolf chose to vote Leafia (P#750) even though he had set his eyes on gummy (P#712).
  I guess his thought process was “if w!Leafia, then w!gummy” (P#729) and “gummy doesn’t get enough votes, unlike Leafia”?
• Daeron straight up claimed self-pres. (P#710) He wanted soweli gone, but that wagon was not stable and risked a tie.
• Chomps sheeped. There was no reason whatsoever. He just popped in, voted, and dipped out. His vote is the most suspicious one in the wagon.
• Neon parked his vote on Daeron because [???]. Whatever P#430 is.
• pandora parked her vote on Daeron to… cause a tie? (P#469)
  I find this vote to be very questionable. I didn’t see any mention in her ISO where she scumread Daeron, so she just… wanted to tie the votes between soweli and Daeron?
• Leafia voted Daeron “because his posts have been horrendous” …and of course she didn’t explain why they looked horrendous. (P#684)
• Io wanted soweli out (P#652) but when that wagon dropped she went to vote Chomps, presumably because of Chomps’ wolfy pop in.
• gummy sheeped Io.
• childe… “exists”.

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So far this is what I’ve gathered:

[Townread]
Daeron
Io
Frostwolf

[Null]
soweli
childe

[Scumlean]
Neon
pandora

[Scumread]
gummy
Chomps

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Chomps is wolfy for his sudden pop in.

gummy avoided voting Leafia, but then said “yikes, maybe Leafia was evil after all” as if to mock her at the very end.

pandora is beneath Neon because while I don’t understand Neon’s jargon, pandora voted Daeron with the intent of forming a tie.

Neon is in scumlean because he voted Daeron, whom I townread, with a “very questionable argument”. (I.e., I don’t understand it at all.)

I’m just going to follow what I wrote for now.

VOTE: Chomps

[Chomps]

VOTE: Zone

[Chomps]

@Zone_Q11

Chomps is wolfy for his sudden pop in.

I am really wolfy for a pop in when I would have mininal interference on the wagon anyways?

It was 4-3 without me, worst I could do as wolf is tie it with daeron

Do not understand the wolfy pop in argument

[pandora]

@Zone_Q11

pandora is beneath Neon because while I don’t understand Neon’s jargon, pandora voted Daeron with the intent of forming a tie.

Pandora voted Daeron and then specifically told people to think about the wagons in an attempt to glean information off of the players who were not on any given wagon yet and it’s not my fault i left and y’all decided to vote for leafia AFTER she towntold

[Zone_Q11]

@pandora

@Zone_Q11

@Leafia

In fact, if I was a wolf, why would I switch to Daeron when I can get away with staying on Soweli? Soweli, the only possible world with me wolf has you as my partner right here. Consider that. And with how I’m a hardbusser, that isn’t even a very realistic world.

You’re a hardbusser. You said it yourself. Ergo, any argument about “why you vote” doesn’t matter.

this is HORRIBLE reasoning. Hardbussers have their own voting tendancies that you can analyze.

Nonsense. If such were the case then they’d be called something more nonsensical like a “hardbus connoisseur” or “specialized hardbusser”.

@pandora

leafia was SO CLEARLY TOWN.

You can yap all you want, but at EOD1 there were five people wishing for her death. “Clearly” not clear enough.

And then there was gummy, whose last-minute “yikes okay, Leafia might be a wolf” makes it obvious that Leafia played bad regardless of gummy’s alignment.

If gummy’s Town, then Leafia looked scummy before her death.
If gummy’s Mafia, then she rubbed salt on Leafia’s wound by pointing out how scummy Leafia was.

[Chomps]

@Chomps

I would not be opposed to a leafia vote

And no I didn’t sheep, Leafia was lower null for me, and soweli’s wagon dissolved with the only second real option beng Daeron, my towread

[Zone_Q11]

@Chomps

@Zone_Q11

Chomps is wolfy for his sudden pop in.

I am really wolfy for a pop in when I would have mininal interference on the wagon anyways?

It was a wolfy pop in because you sheeped the wagon for no reason. I checked your ISO. You didn’t mention anything about Leafia whatsoever besides:

@Chomps

leafia is hard to read

From what I see, you just “hopped into the wagon” and either blame the wagon for a ML or take a share of the pelt. Overall, it’s just a horrible play.

[Chomps]

@Zone_Q11

It was a wolfy pop in because you sheeped the wagon for no reason

lie

[Chomps]

@Chomps

I would not be opposed to a leafia vote

[pandora]

@Zone_Q11

@pandora

leafia was SO CLEARLY TOWN.

You can yap all you want, but at EOD1 there were five people wishing for her death. “Clearly” not clear enough.

i’m not going to rub salt on her wound and lecture her about her townplay she’s not here what i can say is she is always fucking like this and y’all should know better than to think it means she’s wolf

[Chomps]

@Zone_Q11

From what I see, you just “hopped into the wagon” and either blame the wagon for a ML or take a share of the pelt. Overall, it’s just a horrible play.

That implies you know I am uninformed as I could be waiting for both outcomes

Did you slip Zone

[Zone_Q11]

@pandora

and then specifically told people to think about the wagons

(Full disclosure, your sentences after this sentence part was so long, that I didn’t understand it at first glance.)

@pandora

it’s not my fault i left and y’all decided to vote for leafia AFTER she towntold

You told people to think about wagons and wagonomics, left the thread, and then blamed people for “ruining the wagons”. Did you not get the wagonomics from Leafia anyway? Why are you so fixated on soweli vs Daeron?

And Leafia towntell is non-existent at worst and exclusive at best. She failed to sell why she was Town, and instead -FMPOV- she got executed for appearing as Mafia due to her faulty logic.

[Chomps]

If I am mafia I do not expect to take a share of the pelt beacuse I simply know my teammate

Infact there is no mafia benefit to hop in there, I just get put on the list of people that voted for a misexe