The beatings will continue until townplay improves - Day 2 - 9/11

iamagummybear (1): Io-1
ImaginaryNeon (1): Zone_Q11
Io-1 (1): ImaginaryNeon

Not Voting (6): pandora, Daeron, soweli, iamagummybear, childe, Chomps

I take firm stances in these posts.

Yes, I don’t project it with confidence and shut down the idea of being wrong in the same post. Yes, I admit I can see it alternate ways.

You can’t argue, though, that I don’t take firm stances. I made explicitly sure to take firm stances.

This is also false.

I did not hedge on Frostwolf. I consistently called Frostwolf wolfy. Not once did I say that I found Frostwolf towny, as far as I recall. In fact, Frostwolf is probably one of the only slots I was consistent on the entire game.

What did happen was that I backed off of pushing Frostwolf because players who knew him better - at least 3 of them, I think - told me he was town.

What was I supposed to do?

I don’t know him. I don’t know his meta. I don’t know this site meta.

then how could you speak to leafia’s meta?

hm
i don’t want to read this in bad faith but why explicitly sure to take firm stances

Because Leafia’s meta was discussed and I was told what it was.

Because this is something I’ve been suspected for before.

It’s also something Leafia said near the start of the game.

okay hm

Anyway, what is the point of this post? You’re shading me with false information but even if that wasn’t the case and it was true, there’s no correlation between how I treated those two slots and how they flipped. I hedged in different manners, they died with different results, and neither of them died in a way I had a strong hand in.

Take Gummy for example.

My longest post in this entire game (probably) is gushing about how I thought a string of two posts was very townie, but now I’m pushing her.

It’s more likely then that I’m like this as my personality rather than how I treat villagers.

Not to mention, most of the game is villagers anyway.

mfw

how is this related to what you’ve been saying

like idk what you’re responding to with this

True. Frost not having threadpull makes it less appealing to you if you were a wolf. I still think you’d take the kill though because Frost was the only slot suspecting you that I recall.

I’m demonstrating that if you’re looking for consistency in the traditional manner, you won’t find it in me.

i would argue it would make me less likely to take the kill

Or in other words, I “hedge” inherently.

idk about you but im not killing someone who finds me sus when they’re the only ones doing so

that’s a death sentence in most cases

You’re misrepresenting my post.

I didn’t say Frost was wolfy for being different.

I said Frost was wolfy because Frost wasn’t being loud about it. If you read my posts, this is very clear:

That’s… very common.

Players are killed for their reads all the time. It’s mafia’s greatest tool to control the discussion and thread state. They can silence whoever they want in an all vanilla setup.

Why wouldn’t they kill someone who is pushing them? Why wouldn’t they kill someone who is correct and likely to push them later (as indicated by calling someone suspicious)?

girl if you’re v you are so tunneled it’s not even funny anymore

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I wish I could quote millions of examples of this exact thing happening.