could you elaborate on the read in a town pen world
i think pen/childe is ~never w/w
so that means thereās 1-2, letās say 1 for now, in carbonated/pandora/jaiden/ishmael
i think jaiden is town outright both from gamestate and just general tone - i donāt think the pandora doubts are something that comes from a wolf in her position given that pandora was both generally townread and also somewhat her lifeline
i think carbonated is towny - i got the sense she really believes in her pen townread & is worried about the current gamestate, iād also be kinda pressed if my top tr was getting pressured this much one day before F5
then from here weāre looking at:
pen/pandora - unlikely from pandora throwaway vote on pen, pandora doesnāt have the threadpull to get away with bussing here
pen/ishmael - not super likely idt? not impossible idk i might have started conflating pen and carbonatedās reads
childe/pandora - feels tonally unlikely given how pandora talked about childeās eod yesterday but thatās pretty thin
childe/ishmael - this is the ā??? what are we doing dawgā world. i really gotta reread ishmael
pandora/ishmael - also feels off given pandoraās sod.
im gonna reread ishmael and reconsider
think this is just not w/w
pen is still in that schrodingerās mafia player where theyāre wolfy and towny at the same time
to elaborate alot of there posts come both from a town who plays the game a certain way and a wolf pushing agenda
Thereās no way for me to feel 100% comfortable with the slot and itās too close to lylo with imo better hangs that iām just filing them away into the āif theyāre town great if theyāre wolf oh wellā
i guess im kind of coming back around to apennine ishmael again but that doesnāt feel good
kind of hard to say with ishmael 1 posting today
oh perfect timing
who are the better kills iyo?
yeah who knew leaving a bunch of homework to the last possible day was a bad idea
god yeah feel you there
good luck soldier
childe and you imo
canāt go too in-depth cause i gotta shower and drive to class but i should be around once i get into the parking lot of my college
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im currently just kind of sponging jaidenās childe read because i dont really know how to handle it in current gamestate and she seemed pretty confident + sheās my top town rn
This feels out of place. You havenāt seemed particularly interested in sponging reads on anyone else all game. Why this one?
Especially because the reasoning for the confident read is given and has holes that I would expect to matter to you.
my current tr on jaiden is the most confident one iāve had all game + sheās very high confidence on the read + i have no idea how to read childe
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And why do you think Jaiden is any better at reading childe? Deferring a read to someone else makes sense to me if itās a meta read or a vibe read due to familiarity, even if that would still feel unusual for you based on how youāve played so far.
But in this case Jaiden is specific about where the resd is coming from, and itās based on a general belief that mafia would find it easier than town to vote at an eod when thereās T/T wagons.
I know you know that this is not reasoning that holds up.
see the thing is thatās not even where the read is coming from because jaiden said the read was independent of your alignment
Or at least, if itās a reasoning that you confidently agree with, youād be expressing that. It would be something more like āJaiden makes a good point and convinced meā. Sponging the confidence just for the sake of confidence when you can see where it came from, and not engaging with the reasoning itself, feels weird.
Thatās the reasoning for the read if Iām town. She said the reasoning for the read if Iām mafia is that childe is unpaired from me due to letting the tie sit without voting (this part I think is uncontentious)
mm let me clarify a little
i think youāre being reductive of the read by saying itās a general case thing - i think the specific context for childeās eod is a factor in jaidenās read
i donāt really see what in that context is super towny but jaiden who i think is town sees something i donāt so iām going to trust her on that
does that clarify at all