I will admit the bystander part is pretty shakey the more I read, since it’s exactly what they need to push to win the game.
@Bystander I think I can provide an actual wall case as to why I think Soweii caring so much about their worlds is townie. I do not recommend voting Soweii today
Why are they wolfy
Like please elaborate to me Bystander, what actions have Soweii taken this game that makes you think they are a wolf? Is it specific posts of theirs that seem to ally off? Have they contributed to a wolf agenda in a consistent manner? I’m just trying to understand your perspective there. It’s very important to understand that perspective because not understanding other people’s perspectives is what’s going to cause us to lose here.
I’ve been in a game with Soweii for about three days now and I think I’ve got an understanding of how they operate and how they solve. They don’t change opinions fast, they do not like abiding by rules such as killing someone without context, they like having a box of people they think are good and they are trying to find worlds where they think town is in the most danger. At least that’s what I’ve saw. I expect those things to slip as they are not at all important core values to hold this long into the game and they haven’t slipped. You can see them looming into tutuu/me as a world yesterday and you can see them messing around their box and being confused today when someone outside their box (rue) flipped town when they think bystander chomp jaiden are town. I think they have been solving consistently without ulterior motivation.
Forgive me for not wall posting every post they make and providing a step by step progression of how their world view has been internally consistent with the rules they believe, you will have to just look at my words and connect the dots yourself. I don’t really think Soweii is a wolf.
As a wolf
Personally I dislike this post just as a heads up because I don’t think I’d ever want to be fine with dying in a game where we have 2 more MKs
I think me dying today is better than Soweii dying. Obviously the best execution is a wolf, but the worse is someone I see flipping town more often than not and me having to face against tutuu and another wolf
I think tutuu dying today is best for town as I likely die that night and town has two other executions to deal with. I think most other people in the game dying today is worse than me dying, since I value their opinions less than mine if they were to have worlds even if I try to take those into accounts and I think I am a viable midsection in f5.
I also think Soweii suffers from the Pandora problem. Yesterday I came to the conclusion Pandora had almost zero partners and I let them die because I didn’t know what to do about that. I don’t really see viable Soweii partners here.
So again, I’m asking you guys. If you don’t want to kill 22, then just kill me. I won’t be mad. I haven’t been opposed to dying this entire game. It’s a team game and if dying to make people look at the game in a different fashion is needed then just kill me.
I think Jaiden is town based off how they played day one. They have fallen off in a way I expect them to. They sort of suffer from aleph syndrome in a way. They played their heart out day one and made themselves obvious villager near the end of day.
I have already talked about why I think Wazza is town, but I’ll reiterate - look at their posts and ask yourself what their plan this game has been if they are a wolf. I can see the plan if they are a villager, it’s easier to solve the game by using yourself in the equation and upon doing that you just act upon what you think. They voted Tutuu and Soweii and commented about both of them. I think their posts today have been bleeding town. If you can’t really trust that, then you can just kill me and know I found Rue before they died at night. So that’s that.
This is just a villager. For 22 to deny this and accuse me of either TMI or being wolves with them is outting.
Really the goal here is for me to understand either Bystander or Chomp, and let’s be real? I’m never understanding Chomp. So the goal is to try to understand bystander and solve chomp or not.
around that
I’m going to drive home. I love mafia. It’s a very fun game. I also enjoy being left alive this long as it’s made solving much more fun. So thanks for that:
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Okay but I have to majorly counter with the fact that soweli isn’t going to be in the pool to be killed today
Chomps is chomping, I don’t think that’s a needed worry
I genuinely think tutuu has to flip today
My main problem as it stands is that I have zero clue who is actually partnered with tutuu because originally I thought Rue was giving signs based on weird EOD2 progression but then they died and I sort of didn’t really have an excuse or explanation coming into D3 for who I could think would be partnered at least not atm.
I just don’t think we should ever kill anyone else here
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I still think Rue’s defense of tutuu was weird because there wasn’t anything like “assumptions” when it came to how tutuu was acting, they’ve just genuinely not tried to explain their push at all and it almost worked out for them yesterday for literally zero reason
they say so thus it must.
@tutuu I once again request you to find me one game where I’ve completed the NK with the attempt of killing someone who suspected me
I genuinely believe you could not find a single one because that is not how I play at all.
In other news, I thought for a few seconds while this post was in draft and I’m starting to think I might want to look into bystander, I can’t help but feel if tutuu is wolf, Bys has a decent chance mostly because of tutuu’s read on them falling off a cliff for no reason at all