The beatings will continue until townplay improves: Part 3 - THE CRESSENING - Mafia Wins! Again!

[tutuu]

@soweli

The NKA not working hasn’t stopped you anyways

it hasn’t stopped me from … pushing my scumreads … yes? like, am i supposed to stop?

i dont understand your logic

my argument is that “these actions dont make sense for me to take, if you assume i’m a sane wolf”

your counter argument is that “well you havent given up already, so you could still be a wolf”

like, yes, i havent given up already, regardless of my alignment im continuing to play and fight. but why is this proof that its scum indicative of me? my original argument wasn’t that it’s impossible for me to be mafia, i’m sure anything is possible in forum mafia, i was trying to reason how unlikely it is for me to be mafia

your words assert the possibility for me to be mafia, and this can be used to argue that every single player in every single game of forum mafia ever, could be a wolf, in my opinion. like, it’s just abstract

[tutuu]

calling soweli speedo is hysterical i laughed out loud

[tutuu]

@soweli

Wtf im offended you don’t think I die if kyubey w

Kyubey’s willingness to die makes a ton more sense than pandora like it comes from a place of utility but he also is holding onto his pushes. Something else that I considered and it’s less applicable to kyubey but saying you’re ok with dying makes it easier for split villagers to vote you if you ignore the level 1 “a wolf wouldnt be ok with dying” because it’s silly. It’s also more of a comment on threadstate than anything, a sign of confidence that in the worst case scenario FYPOV only considering pure probability that things will be ok

i feel like you’re doing gymnastics to justify litten V. sorry soweli im kind of getting lost in the sauce

counterargument: litten is wolf. nya

like i feel like you’re making this argument by starting with the assumption that litten is town and then trying to find ways to justify it, like you did earlier with starting with the assumption im mafia and then trying to justify it

[bystander]

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[Kyubey]

@tutuu

if i’m wolf, my strategy was to kill leafia to frame wazza, be ignored by literally everyone, and then kill rue, in attempt to DOUBLE frame wazza, and to CONTINUE being ignored and just yell at a brick wall

if im a wolf, i either did this as a grand master plan for the single payoff of making this WIFOM post, OR, i am an insane wolf (not compliment; bad meaning of word insane) who repeatedly tries to do something that didnt work the first tim

I don’t really get this assertion. It’s completely valid to kill a player to put suspicion on a player and then never want them to actually flip. It’s actually much easier for you to wolf in an environment where your reads are being ignored. If you are a wolf all you did was kill the players who you felt was most beneficial to kill. There’s no sick master plan with night kills and day play, it’s just wolfing 101

[Kyubey]

If wazza was to flip villager you would just turn on me, accuse me of being wolf, and go about your life. That’s regardless of your alignment here. It’s insidious to imply that you would be an incompetent wolf to make those night kills, esp considering you don’t apply the same logic to me.

[tutuu]

@Kyubey

then never want them to actually flip

except i have been trying to kill wazza and i only put them aside to kill you because you’re dracula. you’re lord voldemort

wazza nearly got executed d2, i held my vote. you vote switched at the last moment (which i cannot predict, nor control). jaiden was contemplating switching to wazza (which i also cannot predict, nor control)

[Kyubey]

I wouldn’t ever kill leafia night one by the way, because they are one of the few players in the game who I feel like wouldn’t kill me solely because I’m still alive. I’ve actually won a mountainous game against them where I kept them alive and they trusted me even in Lylo as confirmed town. I don’t really get why people think it’s easier to assume I would put myself into a position where I would leave 22 alive compared to leafia who was actually town reading me, or rue who would be considering the facts of the situation, when I have not at all angeled to kill tutuu the entire game. I don’t get it but it at least makes it easier to work with

[Kyubey]

yeah, and then you killed wazza as a wolf, and your argument about being ignored is then moot, and then you move on with your life.

[tutuu]

this is assuming wazza is town and assuming im mafia. i know im town, and i suspect wazza is mafia.

[Kyubey]

@tutuu

if i’m wolf, my strategy was to kill leafia to frame wazza, be ignored by literally everyone, and then kill rue, in attempt to DOUBLE frame wazza, and to CONTINUE being ignored and just yell at a brick wall

oh yeah what happened to wazza not being executable d2

[Kyubey]

I thought you were being ignored but it turns out they almost got executed. I’m confused???

[tutuu]

this snippet is clearly mentioning rue who was the NIGHT 2 kill, which comes AFTER day 2, which is the day wazza nearly died

[Kyubey]

I think wazza is town and that’s why I think you are mafia. Clearly I’m not alone in the assumption considering Bystander and I think Soweii? are thinking Wazza is town right now

[Kyubey]

You didn’t know what I was going to do today. I could have flipped on wazza and then wazza might get executed. I could have done anything. It makes most sense to frame wazza because then you could get my help in killing wazza. Clearly I didn’t want to kill wazza today.

[tutuu]

you’re moving the goal posts. im not making a general statement in #1511. #1511 is a direct reply to

@Kyubey

yeah, and then you killed wazza as a wolf, and your argument about being ignored is then moot, and then you move on with your life.

I’m countering that this quote (that I’m quoting here) rides on the assumption that wazza is town and that im mafia

[Kyubey]

I could be wrong and wazza is mafia, in which case you are town and this game is a wash. But I just don’t really see wazza’s actions as being part of a wolf plan. And I think their posts have been pretty genuine. I haven’t played with wolf wazza in eons though, but I did look over oddyesud where he was town and I see the similarities.

[tutuu]

ergo, im town? thats the only logical conclusion im getting from this post

[Kyubey]

What are you even reading? My post is literally saying you killed Rue because if I didn’t turn on you I might help you kill wazza

[Kyubey]

I’m going to push you if I think you are voting or trying to kill town. That’s just what I’m going to do. I think it’s unreasonable to expect me to do anything else.