Also, it’s Pigeon, not Pidgeon.
@jason.mrrown Hippo’s reluctance to vote before Pigeon is telling. It’s like he’s hoping Pigeon will misvote by voting me to end the game eith a wolf victory.
I’ve been busy and haven’t had chance to reread and case angry frog which I want to do before I make a vote
also from my pov im not super stressed about me being the next vote lol
also this doesn’t even make sense, if its me and angry frog i can vote you and still hope for a misvote from pigeon on you.
That’s very unlikely to happen because Jason will be urging Pigeon to vote correctly if you vote me before Pigeon votes.
Pigeon and Angry Frog Case
1. Pigeon on Angry
So Pigeon is the very different with angry then they are with leafia, while leafia is one of the people they talk about least, angry is one of the people they talk about most. They typically express a townread on them and actively defended them a few times.
However their one and only post today is this:
Which is the exact opposite of what every single one of their posts on angry have been about. Literally all their posts prior today suggest a townread on Angry Frog. Other posts for context:
This basically suggests what I think I pretty much knew which is that it is almost certainly pigeon and one of angry/leafia. Their post today suddenly switching up saying “we’ve always had angry as more mafia” when from their own posts they quite literally never have does suggest to me they were caught off guard by angry voting Leafia and it is acrually pigeon/leafia and they suddenly need to change their read on angry frog to justify a vote on them.
However i guess could also be wifom or distancing in a world where they realise they’ve always put their mafia buddy angry as town and should now hedge the other way in case jason and I correctly vote them.
2. Angry on Pigeon
Angry reciprocates a clear townread on Pigeon too and in retrospect looks like one of the people who was keeping pigeon out of poe and less attention on them.
Conclusion
This was less helpful then I thought as I was hoping angry and pigeon would be clearly unpaired but that’s not the case. Both give each other townreads early on and have stuck with them until literally today, when both have rescinded them.
Based from how today has gone (night kill, angry’s vote, leafias mild panic theyre against angry) i still think that this team is less likely though. Also regardless of pairings i scumread leafia more. But this team would make sense looking at whole game.
What reading this has convinced me is that pigeons progression on angry - regarding the switch up post today on how angry has always been scummier - is super obvious agenda or distancing either way. Pigeon is definately on the team and I am not voting until they post more or ideally vote first.
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im not voting before i hear more from pigeon and jason sorry. we have 24 hours.
idk why youre so keen for me to vote when i have said im probably voting you, it doesnt help you regardless of your alignment.
Thiz analysis is giving me goosebumps. It’s not what I’d expect from a wolf. This will require a bit more thought.
Good idea and I was so keen on it because I was do certain you were a wolf but after that analysis, I’m no longer so sure.
Honestly most of this make me wish i had time to just vote pigeon at start of day cuz i already felt that leafia and angry were probably unpaired and i townread jason so pigeon was pretty obviously mafia coming into today. Would have been much easier lol
Actually nvm you’d all have voted me lmao
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Anyway I am heading off. Would love to see more posts from pig / jason for me to respond to when I wake up
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True. Laughs Well, except for Frog.
Even me?
Going to head out myself for now too. 
The thing i don’t understand hippo is if the team is frog/pigeon, then why did frog vote leafia and not you? Why doesn’t frog say “leafia i should’ve voted hippo with you d3,” vote you, and the game ends when leafia votes you?
I think the natural reaction if you’re voted is to crossvote and start trying to convince everyone that the person that voted you is scum. I do not think it occurs to a wolf in that position to fake the reaction that the game might be over
That’s another thing I didn’t think about so I was most likely correct in thinking the team is Frog/Hippo. I also think now that Hippo plans on stalling for time and never actually voting until thd last second so that no one else has time to vote or even just waiting for Pigeon to vote first, hoping that Pigeon votes for me. It’s a very common scum tactic. Maybe you should just vote for Frog now just to be safe. He’ll then be forced to either hammer his teammate or vote for me in a desperate attempt to still get me misexed with Pigeon’s vote. Then whoever is alive in F3 can figure out the rest. I’ll likely be killed tonight by the wolves if we cor t ectly execute Frog and I trust your judgement Jason.
I also think that if Pigeon was Frog’s partner, Pigron would be a lot more active this lylo.
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Hippo seems convinced I’m a wolf which I don’t think isn’t a good look since I’ve been towncore.
I think I trust Jason and he thinks it’s Frog and I feel like Leafia’s been consensus town for a while so I think after a bit more time I’ll vote Frog
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