The beatings will continue until townplay improves: Part 4 - The Crestening (Night Two - 8/11)

ok so if i’m alive

  1. mafia doesn’t think i’m that good despite my postcount, arguable given i thought it was tutuu for a while but still seems odd
  2. i’m being pocketed by mafia
  3. mafia think they can push me
  4. mafia had some more pressing reason to kill zone (i don’t think so, see above)
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Not only do I virtually never die N1, I’m also the main reason Tutuu got exed. I have a feeling the wolves are hoping to misexe me at one point. I’m also going to have to think a bit mord about my reads and Zone was nowhere close to threatening to wolfread me. I find it very strange why.you’d even vonsider me being the N1 kill over Zone or even you, who Tutuu had towmlocked. Maybe a bit alarming too.

people don’t tend to consider the day 1 execution’s reads all that much in my experience

zone was saying early game that you felt off, which is

… ok i might’ve mixed you two up in my mind

Is this not suspicious

i don’t really think so? it relatively well mirrored my thought process at the time & i don’t think hippo needs to vote there as a wolf, or he can at least come up with a better reason

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I do appreciate not having to monitor the thread during every SoD or risk falling dozens/hundreds of posts behind. Basically, we have a big opportunity now because our chances of hitting scum are better than they were D1 and hitting scum today is really good for our win %. It basically puts our alignments on equal footing.

Zone is a good kill for my solve because I did not have them as town D1. I agree with soweli that it’s worth looking into their slot later and doing NKA. I’m not optimistic about tutuu’s legacy because it was just D1 and I already know one of the main suspects was myself (lol) so I have doubts about how accurate it is. To be fair the same criticism also applies to zone; it was just D1 and they may not necessarily have been killed for their reads at all, I can’t tell yet.

For me, I am thinking about scum teams like a few different ways and I’m open to more:

Idea A) 1 scum in hippo/wolf who were onwagon and didnt do much D1 with the other scum slot hiding in 1 of the other slots offwagon.

Idea B) The tutuu wagon was pure and scum either decided not to join or didnt have an opportunity to hop on due to timing/thread access. The scum are comfortable with faking some minor town tells and being positioned offwagon by chance or choice and hoping we run through ourselves now by lolwagoning each other.

Idea C) 1 slot I’m townreading (soweli, leafia or pidgeonnyc) is scum that I’m misreading along with 1 slot I have not pushed yet who was offwagon. This is more of a paranoia angle that I don’t think is logical here.

Idea D) IDK something where like 1 of the wagons D1 was right and the non-wagoned partner was AFK and looking at the votes D1 isn’t a good approach in this particular game.

So basically what I’d like to hear from everyone is who onwagon and who offwagon they think the scum are. If you have a theory that isn’t one-on and one-off then I’d like to hear it asap.

Btw before I forget

VOTE: hippopablompoyeetus

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Okay, I didn’t consider that yet.

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Being defensive is NAI because innocent people defend themselves when accused. It’s >rand and if you use it as a tell then you should stop. I’m interested in the first part of your post, do you have some kind of team solve cooking?

Dang, not Zone also dead now

I did a skim of what transpired during EoD when I was asleep and I felt like my reads didn’t really change, but I’ll have to reread more to see if there was something suspicious going on there

I’m kinda busy this day phase though, have a bunch of stuff to catch up on, but I’ll try to find time here and there

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You did. It was me that thought Zone felt off, not the other way around.

Not really. Tutuu was always going to be the execution at that point. I resd that mofe as Hippo just joking around.

My thoughts exactly.

Unlikely due to the Zone kill and why would w!Hippo jump onto the Tutuu wagon unecessarily like that?

I aldo find Frostwolf somewhat villagery too. Mainly due to how he started D2.

It just felt villagery to me.

I find this likely.

Good night everyone. :sleepingleafeon:

While it is naive to think the wagon is pure, I think there’s always non-zero chance there’s a second wolf who will not vote Tutuu here.

Yeah. How confident are you on your reads right now?

I’m down to hear what you’ve got

Looks p weak tbh

Talking about your reads post there

Can we revisit this for a sec

The wagons were kind of balanced until Hippo made his vote (4 for tutuu, 3 for Frost, 2 for Frog and himself), which makes me concerned that one of the wagons, perhaps Frost, was his wolf partner. Or this was a wolf self-pres move

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Couldn’g sleep and this is something I didn’t considdr. It’s at least worth thinking about.

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