The Worst Setup in History - TOWN AND ACERERAK THE ADMIRAL WIN!

[Zugzwang]

@Mistyx

ok im putting forth the following world:

there are 2 wolves alive, one of which inherited the lying darkness ability somehow, maybe via copying soweli’s ability or something, maybe just a natural backup, etc
the revenant has fakeclaimed their role
3 town members have trueclaimed

in this scenario, carbonated’s ability is set to activate already, but one more claim would activate the lying darkness

are you willing to risk this

I don’t think that world works
Lying Darkness needs half of non-mafia players:

@9HundredEyes

Return to Me. Return to Nothing (Passive) - The game automatically ends in a Mafia victory if any of the following conditions are met.

• More than half of alive non-mafia players suffer from Shadow Corruption
• Nothing would stop the above from happening

so 3 town members trueclaiming → we’d lose

[Apprentice]

Mist while you’re here would you mind giving me a brief summary of your thoughts on kii?

[Mistyx]

specifically it needs more than half

[Zugzwang]

oh
yeah that’s true
and rev is non-mafia

[Mistyx]

i think the dude’s a wolf

wolf kiiru has a habit of going basically “come on guys im just an innocent villager trying to figure things out” and that’s exactly what he’s done this game

i think him being on the beancat cfd was wolfy and i think him immediately shooting jarek without discussion when given the option was ~outing

[Mistyx]

do you see my point now

[Zugzwang]

@Mistyx

do you see my point now

yes (if I didn’t I would still be arguing)

[Mistyx]

it is very very possible that lying darkness is somehow still in play and i would suggest we even have evidence towards that in the “game can end today” announcement - neither mafia or revenant can win today off numbers alone

[Mistyx]

specifically i want to make a point of saying that jarek was

• still a town vig
• able to be killed at literally any time
  there was no reason to do anything but wait to get rid of mafia and the other phylactery holder before pulling the trigger

[Zugzwang]

@Mistyx

ok im putting forth the following world:

there are 2 wolves alive, one of which inherited the lying darkness ability somehow, maybe via copying soweli’s ability or something, maybe just a natural backup, etc
the revenant has fakeclaimed their role
3 town members have trueclaimed

in this scenario, carbonated’s ability is set to activate already, but one more claim would activate the lying darkness

wait actually uh
how does carbonated’s ability activate w/ 3 town trueclaims

[Mistyx]

carb’s says half LD says more than half

[Mistyx]

oh wait half the alive players

hm

[Zugzwang]

@Mistyx

carb’s says half LD says more than half

@9HundredEyes

If half the alive players

carb’s includes mafia

[Mistyx]

i will yield that but i am still not willing to risk instant loss for the sake of killing mafia without any leads on the revenant

[Apprentice]

I think they’re the most likely to be phylactery and have pretty big wolf equity compared to the other slots I think could theoretically be so (you, frost, t3rm)

I’m like mildly concerned I’m getting pocketed by t3rm but I’m def not going there today. I will probably have to seriously evaluate it tomorrow if I am alive though

And I suck at reading frost, but I kinda think they’re town

[Apprentice]

I probably want to force people to vote in this order personally. We can obviously discuss

Kii > catbae > bystander > frostwolf > t3rminator > zug

happy to vote anywhere in there myself

[catbae]

who the hell are you to be dictating a vote order

[Apprentice]

a member of the town

[Apprentice]

@Apprentice

We can obviously discuss

also that’s what the discussion part is for

[Kiiruma]

Jarek literally ASKED to be shot.