what arguments do you think were biased?
Ok i have thought of a way to read meow
It’s like a vibes based thing and i think i’ll need to read through her iso a few times to doublecheck if im missing anything
But i will do this
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Ish changed her mind at least on Shending for good reasons. The argument fell when it proved that shending/alexis were not w/w. Last thing she said was in line with my group theory:
(Also gave me some support in the end thx ish~~)
way way way waaaaay to obvious. U did read our game right? Again, he’s much better than that.
I think you’re misunderstanding ish, she’s saying that shending’s side of the interaction continually felt off, while she was wolfreading youbie’s interactions with her. Granted she did call shending/alexis w/w to start the game, but she felt better about youbie/alexis while maintaining the wolfread on shending
Barwe-tajm
fuck yea this day is so spicy, imma add to it
stay tuned for outrageous proposal
Lets start with meow. Luckily I’ve been keeping an eye on her all game and commented specifically on her social aspects. After d1 I was afraid to have misread her but she continued to prove herself towny to me, which I talked about in #1819.
But Ash’s reveal made me question it all and I thought yea fuck she HAS felt very… apologetic and on the fence about stuff, always bringing up doubts about her own reads like they’re not to be taken too seriously in the first place – which felt wolfy in hindsight. And like I specifically remembered her saying that she “didn’t mind dying cus shes just vanilla town anyway”… which is a classic that always makes me suspicious. Also, the 3n+ cop claim is just so incredibly convenient its unbelievable, actually thought vt would’ve been better.
Ok. Then i came to the realisation about Ash’s theory, that it all depends on the assumption that mafia has 2 kills on 1 night, which to me is no more likely than mafia choosing to shoot him only in n2. And reading meows defence throu those glasses (#2859, #2861) made me realise that actually, what she says checks out?? She even brought up the points I just mentioned about her that made me suspicious (prob cus bias).
With all this in mind, allow me to establish some arbitrary assumptions of my own that I absolutely will stand by, wholeheartedly:
- The 5D chess isn’t real. Despite weaknesses in Ash’s theory, he is not lying about his role and is still lock town. Same goes for Snow.
- Meow is not lying either. She is cop and this is just one amazing coincidence. Lock town.
- I will put my full trust in meow regarding Gummy. Totally in line with #2688 – completely out of the loop, no way she’s in wolfchat. No sign of being informed the entire the game. Lock town.
ALSO, because of earlier events of today:
- The beef between Shending and Hippo proves to me beyond all doubt that Shending is not wolf, due to it being like a repeat of a discussion he found himself in during our previous game (and others before that). He’s bold and argues with conviction, while wolf-Shending would be more careful and diplomatic in this situation. It is obvious that he does not feel understood, and finds Hippos counterarguments lacking. No pocketing this time Snow, that usually comes with a different feeling. Lock town.
Alright, lets apply all this to my earlier group theory. This is how they looked:
Group 1:
- Barwe
- Ash
- Snow
Group 2:
- Shending
- Meow
- Jason
- (Hippo)
Group 3:
- Chomps
- Gummy
- (Frost)
The point of these were to show that I think there must be only one wolf in group 2, and one in group 3. Not only do I stand by this, since there has been much fighting within them, but now they’ve become narrower. Shending and meow in group 2 – godklubb, Gummy in group 3 – also godklubb.
Blue truth!
The last 2 wolves are among these 4 players:
Jason
Hippo
Chomps
Frost
(My guess, Jason and Chomps or Hippo and Frost.)
And since easter has come, I shall hereby propose:
Äggkorg!
Basically, I wish to put all eggs in one basket. It shall contain the following eggs:
Barwe
Shending
Ash
Snow
Meow
Gummy
We hang the rest one by one. Since they belong to different groups, we’ll focus on one group until the wolf is found (either today or tomorrow) and then continue with the next. Guaranteed survival, trust~ Since group 2 is technically larger if we include the members of my godklubb (whom some of u are still suspicious towards and I can already hear wää wää), we’ll start with group 3, so we get at least one wolf and buy ourselves time in worst case scenario. Preferably Frost; he is a very good potential key, and bc jasons Chomps-towncase was pretty good.
As long as no egg is hanged at eod, we win.
Happy easter~! …unless???
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also
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almost forgot lol
VOTE: Frostwolf103
There is a problem, you missed Gummy entirely and I am waiting for reason why I am potential key
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VOTE: Shending
I am letting you go easy, it’s just I townread Jason and Hippo, Chomps is the only one in the list, I am willing having Gummy executed and face consequences first. I do wonder if you are brave enough to put your buddy in line in that list.
I am not complaining how you want to approach into endgame, no counterclaim on Meow. Ash and Snow hardclear is that everyone agrees. As both of them has clashed with Willow: Ash counterclaimed to Willow and while this looks like Snow is bussing Willow at first, but I am seeing evidence that Snow is unaligned.
Since Willow is mafia investigative, and Meow is claiming Night 3+ Alignment Cop, It is not 100% clearing however I think I am leaving her to actually resolve on the list and have Ash protect her, I leave to his discretion. Even though I find the excuse looking for name adorable, she made a decent point that SoD/EoD flavor is spoilers being easy to fake this. @Meow no reason not to be honest about this part right?
Hippo I am not touching this, sue me.
Shending is anti-consensus towards Ash and despite in a one day hood and told him everything about D1 and some revisions (colored EoD post), there is nothing remarkable for me.
But, if I want to explore w!Ash then why did you choose diafiasco im case you were attacked or is this outside your control @Ash no hard feelings I hope
Chomps is disinterested and try to use meta why I am wolf, but I know a powerwolf when I see one and especially using town games as wolf. I can see ash/chomps pair with that effort…tinfoil but at least 1/2
Gummy is under radar, all the time and that is whole shtick, if she flips wolf then Chomps is next.
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Is this purely a meta-read without taking his actions at face value? Meh, I feel like you’re lock town regardless of shending’s alignment, so I’m going to trust you on that. This is my first time playing with either of you, and you seem like best buddies, so I’m going to give you full power to read him here
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I just feel icky about Shending. I wouldn’t be able to pinpoint any specific messages, his progression just lacks force, and d1 unpairing with Willow… I wouldn’t say forced, but nothing came out of it. He fought her for like 20 posts and the fight got abandoned
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Besides Shending, I’m also missing gummy from this list. I honestly don’t think we’re in that good of a situation where we have a fixed poe 2/4
I’ll try to iso those 6 people, and see if I can find any reasons to reduce it
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Also, regarding meow. I would ignore and leave her to self-resolve tomorrow. Sure, the claim is convenient, but I like her socially and the risk of lynching a Night-3 cop is not worth it
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How do we feel about Willow/Chomps/Shending?
Summary
(probably nothing, just quoting messages I found interesting or stand out from the rest of his iso, so folded)
And then we have…
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Oh boy, I can feel the tunnel on Chomps…
I really dislike his iso
I don’t recall any interactions between each other.