Undertale Overhaul 2 - Day 2 (9/10)

[Hippopablompoyeetus]

idk

i think you’re town anyway i believe your fruit vendor visit

[Hippopablompoyeetus]

me/pandora/chomps/ash/jarek = town

leafia/carbonated/luka/childe = sus

[carbonated]

@Chomps

I’ve stated my reason already but you can coast on sounding like I have no accusation if you want

what the one where you said I had a “wolfy” opening do you think it’s just that one opening that carries the suspicion all the way? is there anything else you’d like to consider as substantive here?

@Hippopablompoyeetus

you were literally the most serious wagon you were top wagon for most of the day

with a grand total of two votes which I’m pretty sure you were one of them as a joke unless it wasn’t then please enlighten me

@pandora

wdym?

i think what he means is you said you were wary of anticlaim but claimed fv anyway

[Chomps]

@carbonated

do you think it’s just that one opening that carries the suspicion all the way?

well it hasn’t improved

[carbonated]

[carbonated]

@meow

jason and I brought up that carbon was weirdly townread despite her always being sus as town and towny as mafia + carbon busses her partners as mafia

nya

[Hippopablompoyeetus]

thing is game state wise after the start of D1 i was willing to give you a townread because a lot of people sussed you without much evidence which is odd if you are a wolf.

but then you haven’t actually done much towny and the only game stuff I’ve seen is vote chomps (town) and push me (town). so im thinking i over thought it and maybe you are just mafia.

[carbonated]

@Hippopablompoyeetus

vote chomps (town)

shrug. If I must ISO past games so be it. Although the one sample size I’m running of is probably a bad one

not pushing you strictly, just dislike the amount of thread control granted. Granted, you are trying. But then again, [paranoia bubbles]

[Jarek]

At what point do I start suspecting people for doing less than I believe they could be

[Host_Account_2]

Effective immediately, @soweli has substituted childe.

Do not discuss this matter.

[carbonated]

Hi soweli!!

[Host_Account_2]

D2 Votecount

soweli (2): Hippopablompoyeetus, Leafia
carbonated (1): Chomps

Not Voting (6): Ash, pandora, Luka, soweli, Jarek, carbonated

[soweli]

hi!!

[soweli]

I don’t like Leafia’s claim. (I also do generally agree with wazza’s phrasing that leafia wants to play the game too much compared to my idea of her townrange but also i’m not good at ideas of leafia’s townrange)

[soweli]

I’m not going to worry about Ash today even though that’s an unwise decision

[soweli]

@Jarek

generally feel like wolves woudl just be fine with letting the game sit here and be quiet until someone else like us starts speaking up, then they can pitch in.

ok this is really funny because i was thinking that this is what you were doing w/rt Ash but

anyhow this is also a bad point to the extent that I don’t particularly think I need to refute it?

@Jarek

But I don’t think a wolf leafia with knowledge of anti-claim…deliberately puts themselves in the situation to be, days later, questioned on why they’re still alive,

[Jarek]

@soweli

anyhow this is also a bad point to the extent that I don’t particularly think I need to refute it?

It is a generous interpretation of why the game is quiet

[soweli]

idk something about this jarek/hippo interaction just screams. bad. and not just because i disagree with many of the takes. going backwards:

I don’t particularly find carbon to be particularly energetic from what I recall so i’m taking jarek’s description here & “lets go get em’” is in my experience not super AI people say it sometimes, sometimes they don’t. I’m not going to touch that being ‘very casual’ to jarek

@Hippopablompoyeetus

Ash by far doing the most work is just awful strategy as a wolf because if they live past n3 they are just incredibly suspicous

?? no. first of all. oh no we’re doomed if we live until d4 which is. F-4 assuming standard kp (which this admittedly isn’t quite sticking to so far), Ash being the far-and-away lead makes him a good target for doctors & thus a plausible doc dodge. And also it’s a very plausible progression to go from the hyperactive d1 to a de-motivated d2/d3. zzz. try again.

@Hippopablompoyeetus

ok this is actually a lovely post lets go for someone else

(this is in response to the jarek post i don’t like)

and then hippo suggests two townies (me & wazza), in particular childe for… doing childe things.

[soweli]

sorry i was saying the latter point that leafia is going to be questioned ‘days later’ (again there’s not that many days. halfway rule is not a predictable factor to work around even when it is) for not dying to anti-claim that is almost certainly not boundless killpower especially when there’s a degree of plausible deniability to any not-hard claim made 20 posts into the game. that’s the exceedingly bad point.

[soweli]

@Hippopablompoyeetus

could just go back to carbonated that gives us most info

like sure i get game is not very active and that sucks. maybe don’t vote because “that gives us most info” because. well first of all I think people always ought to specify what sort of info. But also you’re removing a good chunk of readability on your vote here! Even if you’re a big vote-pilled vca fan “ah well hippo voted v!carbonated because it had the most info” is not readable (obviously a wolf flip looks better upon you but even if carbon is exactly rand that’s not a lot of expected info!

@Hippopablompoyeetus

id rather vote childe than pandora

also wild pivot like if you take the typical info-vote principle of “voting out townies with very few posts does not advance the game” (which I’m not a big fan of but) then why go for childe here?? It doesn’t seem like you actually think childe’s that much likelier of a hit here

@carbonated

hi sorry i forgot about this game because i was playing a fangan all morning (unfortunately embarrassing but true)

(wait which fangan)