Undertale Overhaul 2 - Day 2 (9/10)

It is a generous interpretation of why the game is quiet

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idk something about this jarek/hippo interaction just screams. bad. and not just because i disagree with many of the takes. going backwards:

I don’t particularly find carbon to be particularly energetic from what I recall so i’m taking jarek’s description here & ā€œlets go get emā€™ā€ is in my experience not super AI people say it sometimes, sometimes they don’t. I’m not going to touch that being ā€˜very casual’ to jarek

?? no. first of all. oh no we’re doomed if we live until d4 which is. F-4 assuming standard kp (which this admittedly isn’t quite sticking to so far), Ash being the far-and-away lead makes him a good target for doctors & thus a plausible doc dodge. And also it’s a very plausible progression to go from the hyperactive d1 to a de-motivated d2/d3. zzz. try again.

(this is in response to the jarek post i don’t like)

and then hippo suggests two townies (me & wazza), in particular childe for… doing childe things.

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sorry i was saying the latter point that leafia is going to be questioned ā€˜days later’ (again there’s not that many days. halfway rule is not a predictable factor to work around even when it is) for not dying to anti-claim that is almost certainly not boundless killpower especially when there’s a degree of plausible deniability to any not-hard claim made 20 posts into the game. that’s the exceedingly bad point.

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like sure i get game is not very active and that sucks. maybe don’t vote because ā€œthat gives us most infoā€ because. well first of all I think people always ought to specify what sort of info. But also you’re removing a good chunk of readability on your vote here! Even if you’re a big vote-pilled vca fan ā€œah well hippo voted v!carbonated because it had the most infoā€ is not readable (obviously a wolf flip looks better upon you but even if carbon is exactly rand that’s not a lot of expected info!

also wild pivot like if you take the typical info-vote principle of ā€œvoting out townies with very few posts does not advance the gameā€ (which I’m not a big fan of but) then why go for childe here?? It doesn’t seem like you actually think childe’s that much likelier of a hit here

(wait which fangan)

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really don’t like this vote in the context of #202 from carbon being pretty decent (at least FMPOV, part of it is that she names an issue i had with your slot in being too jumpy)

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@Hippopablompoyeetus let’s talk about this :pleading_face:

(I’ll try to gather my own thoughts on chomps beforehand but)

I can say pretty confidently Ash wasn’t attacked last night fwiw.

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it’s really hard to gather my own thoughts on chomps especially in comparison to most recent beatings game, but I do tend to think his recent single-minded focus on carbon is a rather bad look, it… has a malicious aura to it (ftr this does mean i’m somewhat retracting my agreement with carbon on the chomps switching too much even though i still think it was a towny thought).

Like the cheap way of phrasing chomps is "he makes no effort to actively explain why carbon is mafia nor to re-evaluate carbon, as we see in thread, in particular this fallback looks bad

& i think the lack of desire to engage goes beyond beatings into my recollection of other chomps!v meta
(also not quoting for the sake of length but the ā€œit’s a game/it’s not like i’m going out of my way to hard push you and make noiseā€ sequence is really bad (especially when it ignores what carbon is saying which is that it feels especially bad to have a seemingly thoughtless vote being the reason you die.

I am sympathetic to chomps’s opening being towny but like. be so for real.

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ftr I don’t like (both the assumption that everyone at EoD was town) and also Jarek’s general over-insistence on his own being town it leaves a bad taste in my mouth especially when he’s really not doing anything further to help besides complaining. Not too interested on pulling this thread more rn but wanted to tie things up for rn w/rt jarek

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generally agree with soweli and i’m happy to have someone else posting in thread

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nya

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who do you think is mafia

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soweli gets a fruit (number) tonight nya

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i have bad thoughts about chomps, maaaybe ash? leafia i’m iffy on but she’s within her townrange imo. i’d like to see how she responds to pressure but i won’t start it

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oh interesting. you (& ash) were the main reasons i ended up sorting leafia into pretty confident town.

The ash drop off is somewhat notable yeah.

What do you think about carbonated rn btw? I’m guessing that might get me a better read on your slot

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I’m malicious aura farming

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ftr I think Ash is still town just for his earlier solving being pretty towny & showing more genuine curiosity than a wolf would have imo.

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but on carbon it’s just gut telling me it’s a wolf, I think hippo is town and I am sheeping him on other reads, carbon and leafia are my wolf reads and I am focusing on one

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having no thoughts on luka is the correct opinion & that concludes my backreading i think

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ok.
why do you think hippo is towny here?

who would be your contender for a wolf if either carbon/leafia flipped town

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