Vampire The Masquerade SFM: Game Thread MAFIA VICTORY

[Hazardwaste]

@Gorta

this is awful, but that anger looks genuine

I mean i am being voted because kiiruma thinks i should have protected him. which i dont fucking know why that was the case

[Gorta]

ok, but how about Kii currently (who is a wagon)?

[Gorta]

can you at least find another reason to townread Kii in this scenario?

[IcetFeelsPain]

VOTE: leafia

[Jarek]

The biggest reason I like kiiruma right now at this moment in time is that on the surface they appear solvy. I like solvy. Maybe I should shift my goalposts because that’s kinda why everyones “cool” with me lol

[Zone_Q11]

Let’s assume Kii is mafia. What is Icet? If Icet is evil, then he wants to defuse the situation between me and Icet, and try to gain my favor. If Icet is good, then what the heck is his agenda?

What I understand even less is: If Kii is evil, then why wouldn’t he just start a wagon on me? He has a lot of experience playing with me. He can just say: “Hm, never mind. I was wrong. Jarek is right. Zone is sus. Let’s vote him off.” Why has this not happened yet?

It makes no sense to see him as mafia.
Therefore, he is town.
Because if Kii is mafia, then I don’t understand Kii.

[Zone_Q11]

@Hazardwaste

@Zone_Q11

about how Hazard seems to be fine with Kii’s wagon even though Hazard should have known Kii the most

THE FUCK IS THIS BULL. THIS IS NOT THE ONLY THING I HAVE DONE IN THIS GAME

I don’t care if it’s bull or not. How do you expect me to remember more about you when I don’t?

“Hey, what do you remember about Zone in 2019?”
“I don’t know, but I do remember Litten saying he is simple-minded.”
“THAT IS BULL. THAT IS NOT THE ONLY THING ABOUT ME!”

[Hazardwaste]

i gotta go to uni, i’ll be back after that. or i may just ignore uni and type in class i dont know.

i am currently in 4 games cause i accidentally over booked myself and cross planned. so please be extremely slow with me till at least one of these games finish

[Host_Account_1]

Kiiruma (3): Leafia, Bionic, Someone
Leafia (3): Kiiruma, May, IcetFeelsPain
Wazza (1): Luka
HazardWaste (1): Zone_Q11
Childe (1): Jarek

Not Voting (5): Childe, HazardWaste, Magnus, Gorta, Wazza

#VC Half-way Day 2

[Hazardwaste]

@Zone_Q11

I don’t care if it’s bull or not. How do you expect me to remember more about you when I don’t?

so you have completely removed any conversation we had beginning of the day

[Zone_Q11]

@Hazardwaste

Zone is voting me cause he apparently has just forgotten every interaction i have had with him

We had interaction?

[Hazardwaste]

Me talking about lying rolecard literally was a foothold in your scum read of icet start of the day. no way you have just forgotten all of that

[Gorta]

@Hazardwaste

or i may just ignore uni and type in class i dont know.

go to uni don’t ignore your class

[Zone_Q11]

@Hazardwaste

and only remember a line kiiruma said saying “Ah hazard is my friend he should be defending me smh” Why am i not physically allowed to be suspicous of kiiruma. Why is it illegal and death worthy to be suspicous of kiiruma.

The first half is indeed the only thing I remembered about you.
The second half is nonsense since it is irrelevant to what I said; I never said you can’t be suspicious of Kiiruma.

@Hazardwaste

AND THEN HE TRIES AND GETS OTHER PEOPLE ON ME.

The only person I tried to convince to your wagon is Kiiruma. Because if he think you’re sus, then why wouldn’t he switch his vote to you?

[Gorta]

I think it’s going to take me a bit longer to look into this kii vs hazard thing and to make reads on either one

[Hazardwaste]

@Zone_Q11

The second half is nonsense since it is irrelevant to what I said; I never said you can’t be suspicious of Kiiruma.

@Zone_Q11

…well, then again I also don’t remember what Hazard has done so far. The only thing I remember about him is the thing Kiiruma recently said; about how Hazard seems to be fine with Kii’s wagon even though Hazard should have known Kii the most.

so if your not voting me due to kiiruma’s suspicon… your voting me cause you dont remember anything i have said. and just didnt read back to check over your thought process.

[Zone_Q11]

@Hazardwaste

but specifically your push on this vote feels extremely opportunist.

There were SEVEN vanity wagons, and the player I was voting does jack **** and nobody wants to switch to them because “they are LHF and the obvious vote”.
What was I supposed to do if my vote -my only weapon to kill mafia- is USELESS?

Of course I would be an opportunist and switch my vote! What did you expect!?

[Hazardwaste]

@Zone_Q11

The only person I tried to convince to your wagon is Kiiruma. Because if he think you’re sus, then why wouldn’t he switch his vote to you?

cause if you read up zone. he isnt fully sus of me.

@Kiiruma

Icet and Zone
Hazard
Bionic
Leafia
Childe

colour doesnt transfer through quotes. but my name is half green half red. he is half half on me

[Zone_Q11]

@Hazardwaste

I havent liked you at all today from the going straight to a 3p arso rather then thinking of a mafia or townsfolk arso first. and then when quizzed you said you never heard of either. surely after all your years of mafia you have heard of one of this before and then this very opportunist push.

Who wouldn’t think of 3P when they see they got doused!? You, Jarek, and Someone can complain all you want about “how could you not know what Firebrand is” and “I have never heard of Firefighter”; THAT IS IRRELEVANT ANYWAY.

AND I DID SAY I THOUGHT OF A TOWN/MAFIA ARSONIST, BUT ONLY AFTER TIME HAD PASSED:

@Zone_Q11

I mean, I did think of Mafia Arsonist after P#1377 and P#1549, but before that the stereotypical Arsonist is always a Neutral.

[Zone_Q11]

It’s less of a “I townread Kii because he did X” and more of a “if this is w!Kii, then what the heck is his agenda?”