Vampire The Masquerade SFM: Game Thread MAFIA VICTORY

[Magnus]

Sometimes I use light mode Discord, but the text looks grey,

[IcetFeelsPain]

im a very simple person

[Magnus]

If a player is evil in most worlds and they’re nearly guaranteed to be executed, we can make them vote and then just vote to skip day.
Otherwise we just leave the votes where they are.

[Wazza]

I wish we voted Icet

[Magnus]

@May

@May is this a Garfield joke?

[Magnus]

@Zone_Q11

He told me to ask what the restrictions to convert others are; there is none.

@Zone_Q11.
Are you here? I would like you to clarify your information with the hosts.

[Zone_Q11]

Sorry. Perhaps I should have been more detailed.
The question was: “Is there any conditions that have to be met to convert somebody?"

[Zone_Q11]

I’m here now. I was distracted playing a game (Necromerger) and watching YT videos.

[Zone_Q11]

It’s XYLO. How can one get pressured to vote?

Just be like Gorta: Steadfast and resolved to not snapvote at XYLO.

[Zone_Q11]

@IcetFeelsPain

Leafia is checked town

Well, I’m still unsure about this.
Leafia is greenchecked N1 before conversion could happen (according to Bionic’s role description). She is confirmed not starting mafia, and I doubt mafia converted her at N1, but it’s a different story for N2, after Bionic’s flip.

[Magnus]

@Zone_Q11

Sorry. Perhaps I should have been more detailed.
The question was: “Is there any conditions that have to be met to convert somebody?"

Would “it being night time” count as a condition, or does it just mean it’s not the anticlaim?

[Leafia]

So there’s 100% a wolf in Wazza/Jarek. Otherwise, the game would be over.

@Jarek

Shouldn’t have voted tbh. You got what you wanted, and you’re probably evil.

But like hell I’m going to convince anyone to vote you they’d just kill me if I did that.

Either Wazza or you is evil. 100%.

@Wazza

Well no it wouldn’t tbf, MyLo means we can still tie yeah but still

Not any more we can’t if you’re both villagers.

@Wazza

It’s entirely possible it’s 3v8

We mislynch, it’s 3v7
Wolves convert, it’s 4v6
Wolves double kill, it’s 4v4
Wolves win

If it was 3v8, it wouldn’t be mylo.

@Luka

Meh, we have 2 confirms already. Just wait for more people to ack, I still don’t know who the evil team is if you guys are v/v.

It’s literally impossible for them to both be v. The game would be over.

@Magnus

I’m checking with Wazza because I socially trust you more, but everything about Wazza’s claim is specifically better from a mechanical perspective. That doesn’t mean a whole lot when it’s a closed setup and pro-town confirmable evil abilities can wreck a game, conversion or no conversion. I didn’t think your greencheck claim was real anyway, because pf how you signalled it D2.

Why did you say you voted the wrong person?

It literally isn’t when a wolf can have Wazza’s role.

@Magnus

Since it’s MELO, implying evil are -2 from parity, if you were both town they could just hammer. But if it’s a conversion or kill pattern that’s giving that announcement, the game might continue in a V/V scenario.

I highly doubt it.

@IcetFeelsPain

game hasnt ended yet bc no exe is possible and evils are only in MYLO!!!

Wait. We can still tie a noexe vote.

@Magnus

But that only works in the “conversion instead of kills” world, and that feels really brutal to town.
w!May explains why I wasn’t converted.

You’re always converted in w/May worlds.

@Luka

So wolves could make this exact argument. Notice how everybody has me in there teams today? Why would evils kill me. In addition to that, I was a fairly obvious protection target I would think.

Don’t make me laugh Luka. I was the obvious protection target N2.

@Zone_Q11

Magnus. If Luka’s evil, then I’d have been hit by anti-claim by now. We shared our roles at N2 with Wazza’s ability.

Not necessarily.

@IcetFeelsPain

There are 4 wolves

Leafia is checked town Zone and Jarek are towny imo
Wazza is towny and is only a wolf if Zone / Luka is their partner which doesn’t really make sense with Luka partner

idk why I cleared Gorta but they can be slightly towny for now so POE is

• childe
• Kiiruma
• Luka
• Magnus
• May

With maybeeee Gorta

Pretty sure Gorta isn’t a wolf here and I’m not so sure about Zone being town, but I do agree with the rest.

@IcetFeelsPain

actually I trust Wazza more than Jarek tbh

I feel the exact opposite myself.

@Wazza

I wish we voted Icet

Insanely wolfy post.

[Leafia]

I still highly doubt Wazzais a villager here but it’s probably safest to noexe for today. Just in case.

[Wazza]

@Leafia

Not any more we can’t if you’re both villagers.

In the same post, it’s entirely possible for town to tie in the case me and jarek are both town, especially considering this is a conversion game.

@Leafia

If it was 3v8, it wouldn’t be mylo.

I literally just showed you the scenario where 3v8 could literally be mylo and bro hits me with the “it wouldn’t be mylo”

read the other half of the post

@Leafia

Wait. We can still tie a noexe vote.

there you go

@Leafia

Insanely wolfy post.

I’ve literally been making it clear that I didn’t want to vote Jarek and wanted you dead and yesterday I wanted Icet dead, tf you want for me to just drop all my reads and pretend that I wanted to vote Jarek?

[Wazza]

I’m not the one who started the cross, if I had that choice I would’ve chosen Icet, would’ve been you if it wasn’t for the mechtown thing or whatever

[Leafia]

You didn’t have to vote for Jarek you know.

[Magnus]

@Leafia

So there’s 100% a wolf in Wazza/Jarek. Otherwise, the game would be over.

Not necessarily, since we have eleven players. If it was a standard game, either we’d have four versus seven (misexe, kill, should be four versus five), or five versus six (in which case it’s LELO).

The fact that we’re in MELO means the game is nonstandard.

[Leafia]

I realized that while catching up.

[Leafia]

@Zone_Q11 What info did you get N2?

[Magnus]

@Leafia

You’re always converted in w/May worlds.

I don’t think so, because May said this on D1.

@May

You think I don’t know if I flip wolf everybody kills you