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Why Wazza?

Because as a slot they have done basically nothing this game and I think that with behaviour of their slot and the general direction this game has been going town has had some thread control but complete misdirection (E.G. Leafia on me) and wolves therefore just allowed that. Childe has caused 0 ripples this game on purpose and has kept very much to themselves with the only person defending them being you and for some reason people took that as bible and decided that Childe wasn’t executable as a result. When if one of you is a wolf it is entirely possible (If not likely) that you both are.

Please compare that to all of the characters this game.

A recharger, a 2-shot even night parity cop, a backup who tried to backup a flipped towny and got the wrong character… pllus if you’re to think about other claims people have made… A 2-shot mech oracle, a 1-shot bulletproof.

It’s all very much not high powered which is what made me distrust Bionic. I don’t even have a useful ability in comparison to most others in what world do I think “Ah yes a JOAT with a Steward ping is super balanced and definitely real”?

I ain’t had an action the entire game. I wish I had. Also I hate to point it out but in what world am I (alongside Icet) bringing attention to the fact that that you were potentially RBd or your action failed… if I’m a scum RBer?

Also let’s make this simple. In the world you’re trying to argue I’m a scum RBer who blocked you, you’d be trusting both Icet and Magnus because of their claims. And at that point you’re building a town team of you 3 + 2 more. And a wolf team of just… me + 3, with not really much going for that world whatsoever because the people I would be paired with are fucking dead.

I can still give you a game, they normally do this. I don’t hard defend my partners like, ever. I just find that incredibly stupid to do, so we’re not paired at all in addition to that. Using the metric of they’ve “done basically nothing this game” has chopped 2 town so far.

It can be real though, and once again I’d argue Bionics role is stronger than that. In addition to the above, why would scum claim that role? It’s either lack of critical thinking under high pressure which is reasonably, but you’re not admitting to it being that. The solution I’m naturally inclined to come to is that you’re just a wolf who wanted to defend Wazza.

You didn’t bring attention to this until I did, I was the one who pointed out that it’s possible. Before that, you instigated the conflict by saying that theirs always one evil between us, hence what I dislike about your play today.

I’m just arguing you’re scum, not particularly scum roleblocker. However, I do believe that’s a possible role it could be. I’m trusting Ice / Magnus off of socials, not claims. My town team is us 3 + 2 more, also Magnus is dead so this is just a weird post? And, you can be paired with people you don’t interact with, or Wazza who you saved. Hence why my top world has you both as evil at the moment, no?

You can do, I’ve never said that I don’t want it.
You keep saying that you can give it but you don’t give it at the time.
So why not just fucking give it? Lmao

Might I remind you there is a thing called :sparkles: Conversion :sparkles: this game? It is entirely possible you were a wrong towny who thought that Childe was good when they were a wolf earlier on but then they would absolutely convert you. Or if you were a wolf, then you would defend and convert your friend… like I would’ve with Hazard.

I mean I disagree.
PrincessAbigail just straight up wasn’t the right execution anyway and I don’t think that was the metric there.
Bionic lied about their claim and that’s why I executed em personally because it was fake to me.

And this, Luka, is why if you’re a wolf that’s trying to push this narrative then you will not succeed because there are players who know the nature of myself and Hazard as a duo. And if you’re a towny then you need to read D2 and me v Hazard to see that even he pointed out that if one of us was a wolf we’d not push against the other, we’d just convert each other.

Cause some people don’t read meta, and they just ignore posts regardless? So I ask?
Is this even a fucking real accusation, all you needed to say was “yes”.
https://www.mafiauniverse.com/forums/threads/42584-mafia-gg-Role-Madness-Game-1

That means I was wrong in the first place, which once again I doubt. I’m never starting wolf here like, at all due to me having no activity D1, which doesn’t come from W!Me at all x2, given it was fairly clear I wanted to blind conversion?

Bionics real role is more powerful than what they claimed.
Abi was obv!v and was killed only cause she didn’t want to try.

Your only defense stems from OMGUS, calling me wolf for accusing you as if I can’t be wrong as some omnipotent god, which is why you’re a wolf. You’re using Hazzy reading you as v as a defense when people can be wrong, and you’re accusing me for said “wrongness” with a fucking blindfold as to every other wolf around your eyes.

I never mentioned it directly, however, I did say something which in itself points out the fact that I’ve considered the possibility of you being roleblocked. I just don’t believe that all 3 of you are good + there’s a scum roleblocker (Fun fact, my character does suggest there’s a scum roleblocker. I just think that all 3 of you being good together is untenable and you’re the most wolfy of the 3)

The use of the word ‘should’ does imply there are ways for there to be no redirection that I had thought of. These being yourself being redirected or roleblocked.

And how am I wolfy? You’re completely and utterly incapable of asking that one question when it’s presented to you, aside from “you’ve been pushing town!” despite a grand total of one player I’ve actually pushed flipped this game. It’s clear that wolves are resistant to my pushes, EOS.

That can also be interpreted as an accusation against me, hence why it’s not a good defense here and I don’t know why you’re treating it as such.

Oh you mean like you’ve probably been on Childe this entire game? Because while building worlds you’ve argued Childe is wolf in most of them?

Also I’m not using Hazard reading me as V being a defence. It’s a very simply point I’m highlighting. If I was a wolf, Hazard would be converted, not dead. Same vice versa. It’s why we both were paranoid on each other D2, but then realised what it said about each other.

DON’T POST THAT
:sob:

i regret my past

Sure, I can be wrong on Childe. If I am though, they’ve massively changed up how they play wolf on a conceptual level. It’s quite literally last resort for me to vote them here out of the people I consider “hard” cleared.

Also, why should I believe this? Like, simple as that. I don’t get why I should believe that you would convert Hazzy.

Because Hazard literally said it himself.

  1. You could be converted N3
  2. Dumb gripe, but why would I believe Hazzy on this?
  3. You’re acting way differently then when accused D2

Also, you still never answered the question of why I’m scum?

How is Hazzy misclearing you not possible? Do you have any evidence of what you’re claiming, or is it just based on social stigma? Why wouldn’t Hazzy convert May, who’s also his buddy? You can’t answer any of these questions yet you’re still using it for a defense for yourself.

1 - Ah yes, the slot who was pushed on a ton by several players and has been PoE the entire time. For sure being converted N3, you got me.
2 - Because he’s much more experienced than you are when it comes to me. You don’t really know me (As is clear from your reads on me lol)
3 - I’m literally not but ok

As for that last part, it’s part PoE and it’s part that when world building you fit into it much better than others. For you to be good Icet needs to be evil or was redirected into the bus-drive or you would need to be RBd on that specific night.