Vampire The Masquerade SFM: Game Thread MAFIA VICTORY

[Kiiruma]

@Luka

I maybe agree on Ice, you don’t explain Zone here though.

Explained a bit below after Jarek commented about Zone with the Arso situation.

@Jarek

The take-away here is that I think icet is town and a wolf would never incriminate themselves for basically no reason by claiming to visit the landmine that is zones claim

Sure, agreed

@Luka

So, your case on Leafia is that they misread you, going for an “easy send”, but prior to that you say that “Leafia has a history of not being able to read me so I can skip that part?”

I think Leafia misreading me is moreso on purpose this game because Leafia realises I’m an easy mis-execution. And Leafia is playing into the easy mis-execution and safe votes by kind of just going with the flow and not causing any ripples that could be brought back towards herself.

@Luka

(Also, the Bionic thing is NAI which we should both know TBH.)

I mean I think in general it is a wolfy thing. And it certainly doesn’t let me find them as town in any way. I literally stated within that paragraph that either Bionic is a Lazy Town or a Mafia which either way I don’t want alive.

@Luka

Recent sunny village game lol. Other than that, what do you think about sunny’s actual posting?

Eh, I really don’t like their posts otherwise I wouldn’t really have them as a top scumread. On top of this as I already stated I think wagonomics look bad for Childe.

[Gorta]

I’m still processing the zone thing from earlier (it’s the last thing I remember)

[Luka]

@Kiiruma

I think Leafia misreading me is moreso on purpose this game because Leafia realises I’m an easy mis-execution. And Leafia is playing into the easy mis-execution and safe votes by kind of just going with the flow and not causing any ripples that could be brought back towards herself.

Why is it on purpose here?

@Kiiruma

I mean I think in general it is a wolfy thing. And it certainly doesn’t let me find them as town in any way. I literally stated within that paragraph that either Bionic is a Lazy Town or a Mafia which either way I don’t want alive.

Fair.

@Kiiruma

Eh, I really don’t like their posts otherwise I wouldn’t really have them as a top scumread. On top of this as I already stated I think wagonomics look bad for Childe.

I feel like I’m uhm- getting what’s that thing- deja vu upon seeing this lol. What exactly don’t you like about there posting?

[Luka]

Lol, villagery.

[Bionic]

nuh uh

[Luka]

DW, I corrected myself later cute bunny. Let me look at Abi’s legacy for you since I CBA to read you, okay?

[Bionic]

@Kiiruma

Lazy Town or a Mafia which either way I don’t want alive.

Kiiruma on their way to gamethrow and kill half the town beacuse they didn’t meet the 500 message per hour activity requirement

[Kiiruma]

@Luka

Why is it on purpose here?

Because nobody’s expressed any sort of good townreads on me or anything and so an opportunistic wolf can just settle in to start a non-contested wagon which is likely to be followed. This is comparison to other games where it’s sometimes just off the cuff even with less concsensus.

@Luka

I feel like I’m uhm- getting what’s that thing- deja vu upon seeing this lol. What exactly don’t you like about there posting?

The reads feel really weak with nothing much behind them. The fact is Childe had been low-posting a lot D1 and is still the lowest poster by quite some distance so it feels like they’re playing it safe. I still hate wagonomics with them too because why did no wolves try to take advantage of an easy mis-execution if it was available? I wasn’t the only vote there, yet it never really made it to 3 or 4. There’d be someone who joins it then it peters off easily.

[Kiiruma]

Hey buddy if you can choose your words a lot more carefully that’d be very much appreciated.
You need to do something at some point this game.
Show some sort of progression behind your reads and votes.

Naked votes just seem so lazy and lacklustre.

[Bionic]

You’re the one who said you didn’t want town alive :3

[Kiiruma]

Don’t even in a jokey manner mention me and gamethrowing in the same sentence as at least I’m fucking TRYING despite 2 games in a row being misread D2 and it feeling demotivating as fuck. Unlike you who’s doing literally nothing to help anybody read you.

[Luka]

@Luka

DW, I corrected myself later cute bunny. Let me look at Abi’s legacy for you since I CBA to read you, okay?

Abi didn’t have you as wolf so I’ll take that as town reading you.

[Kiiruma]

I said lazy town.
Funnily enough I’m not voting for my townreads, now am I?
I think you’ll find I’m currently voting for my top wolfread.

[Luka]

@Kiiruma

The reads feel really weak with nothing much behind them. The fact is Childe had been low-posting a lot D1 and is still the lowest poster by quite some distance so it feels like they’re playing it safe. I still hate wagonomics with them too because why did no wolves try to take advantage of an easy mis-execution if it was available? I wasn’t the only vote there, yet it never really made it to 3 or 4. There’d be someone who joins it then it peters off easily.

That’s just Sunny, sorry lol. Uhm. Can you respond to my Jarek question? I kind of want to wagon them RN.

[Bionic]

lazy town are still town

[Kiiruma]

If your question was about my read on you/Jarek I’d already answered it, I’ve had you 2 in my null pile so honestly wouldn’t care if they’re wagoned. I want something more definitive to be able to read them. I hate how their ISO has some good parts and some parts I find wolfy.

[Luka]

Wanna get something more definitive?

[Kiiruma]

Hey you do realise that you can actually start posting something useful instead of just saying this, right?
Yes, lazy town is town.

Why do you think I’m currently voting for someone I wolfread instead of saying they’re either a wolf or a lazy towny such as yourself?

[Jarek]

@Kiiruma

I think you’ll find I’m currently voting for my top wolfread.

Seems like a lazy choice but alright.

[Luka]

Okay, actual case on Jarek. First off, this post here just seems like they were lurking in thread till they found an opportune moment to say something. They didn’t respond to anything else like they’re nervous to speak, in addition to that laser focusing on specifically this in the post and not really responding to the villagery notes, which do exist. Kiiruma has felt villagery throughout this entire conversation, and choosing to ignore it in order to conf bias a wolf read is meh.