Wiretapper13er [12/13, Night 1]

None being a wolf in this PoE in my opinion

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Large-scale i think between zone, frost, tutuu, ybw something felt deeply wolfy about the last few posts, i think the switch onto ACE left a kind of bad taste in my mouth and I do not know why, the argument is semi-reasonable but like new player is sheeping? Fork found in kitchen. It feels like that particular play is being punished rather than wolfread but im also probably predisposed to such a wagon being wolfled. Maybe the timing is wrong for such a thing?

Ok then who do you think is a wolf besides ACE

if I got a wolf then my job is done.

Anyway since there are only 5 hours or so left in the day I can do max effort and then nap during the night.

pancakes/luka is probably town. He behaved in a way that has a lot of town entitlement. I feel as if as wolf if he wanted to swing at me he’d have thought of better arguments against me. Which may sound strange, but I like the angle of him looking at my body of work and going ā€œyou’re keeping the poe open!ā€ when I was so plainly speaking never actually doing that. It speaks more to town paranoia and wariness than a wolf trying to deceive to me. and also I am pretty good at reading luka, so I wont overthink this.

I think ACE has wolf equity but also more ā€œtown being a bit too honest for their own goodā€ equity for me to want to kill them day 1. I dont know them, so I dont think it is good practice to outright shield them but I do think this has a high potential of backfiring. On one hand I did tilt my head at how they voted with me and their rhetoric behind it, otoh I feel like its perfectly reasonable for a town who knows I am scary to just admit they are voting with me to validate my world view and if it is wrong they will stab me. Feels pretty guileless to my eye.

@soweli whats your reasoning for your vote atm?

@diafiasco why are you voting me?

Anyway atm the two people I think have the best chance to yield wolf are hippo (who I just dont get any town whimsy from at all, and someone said town annoyance but hippo 100% can fake that) or eliza for the ā€˜lets just make the game more active and make sure we arent eating ourselves while the wolves sleep’ award which while not high brow I think is a good use of a day 1 in an otherwise very active game (I know ybw is close to them in post count but they have accounted for themselves recently, I’ll iso eliza to see if I am wrong)

Oh, and I havent read a single frostwolf post that I remembered. Which is either a wolf tell or a frostwolf tell and I need more energy drinks.

I am not trying to please anyone either way.

I didn’t say anything about trying to please anyone tho

It does imply something about my alignment, but you have to take the hint somehow

Hints are for losers and young people.

I have read Willow’s iso and have made the choice I do not wish to kill them. It seems I am going to have to drown someone who will fight back today, alas

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None the less, if Tutuu is town and says at least 5 people are pushing (YBW, Hippo, ACE, you and Dia), I am willing to believe Ace is the wolf and rest are town.

:new_moon: Alright, I’ll be making two posts. The first is a quotebook, so:

:new_moon: I know this is ancient stuff in the thread, but what in the name of the sky does pink town mean?

:new_moon: Well it goes against what has been revealed (by you reacting to someone else’s answer) but I’ll say it anyway:

:new_moon: Our read is 8.

:new_moon: And remember, that’s how well we read (and still do) your confidence in it being, not our confidence in your read there.

:new_moon: Which is pancakes, apparentl-

:new_moon: Hangh. Hangh. Ha​a​a​a​a​a​a​angh. Well that’s just wonderful.

:new_moon: So about this, our thoughts when we read it were ā€œthat’s not right, we stated our stance publicly!ā€ but when we checked back we hadn’t. It was a false memory, we remembered the post where we shifted vote to pancakes as one where we explained our reasoning on shifting away from you. Anyway, I will now relay that.

:new_moon: I think your roleclaim is totally bogus. However, your roleclaim will likely be falsifiable later in the game, and also we can be wrong and you’re actually not lying and town. For these reasons we retract our vote—but not our suspicion—on you.

:new_moon: This was a quotebook post. Other reasoning will follow shortly.

I cant believe youre asking me this when i walled on ~why im voting dia

I dont think theyve gotten better, i dont like any of the other wagons better and im not really wont to go around the circuit trying to get people to vote frost/zone especially since the dia vote feels unresolved in a sense

:new_moon: I Don’t Want To Be Executed. Currently we (narrowly) sit at the top of the voteboard.

:new_moon: How vexing.

:new_moon: Alright, I have one question for the thread,

:new_moon: This went on to spawn a massive clash, one where pancakes claimed their initial claim wasn’t against voting but whatever that doesn’t matter too much. How characteristic of pancakes is this, other players? Obviously I’m not going to be able to know, but all of you might!

:new_moon: Okay, that was a side matter at best, I need to give useful thoughts, get these votes off me. Ho-hum. The obvious thing is to write up a long piece of alleged reasoning claiming that the other half of my reread put pancakes back in my crosshairs, and try to get other people to vote for the unfortunate savory snack too, but it just wouldn’t be honest!

:new_moon: Outside of the minor matter of ā€œwhat the hell are you talking about pancakesā€ I’m just not that suspicious of them! Gh. Well, the person I’m most suspicious of is probably frostwolf, but I can hardly justify that, it’s just a matter of feeling: ē›“ę„Ÿ!

:new_moon: Still. It’s all I have.

VOTE: Frostwolf103

:new_moon: I’m probably going to get hung, aren’t I…?

:new_moon: I clear my throat with a great degree of dramaticism.

:new_moon: The link we posted higher up in the thread (found here) has had its contents updated. Specifically, an additional hyperlink was added to the bottom of it, pointing to another page. I imagine that editing something that you’ve linked to is viewed similarly to editing a post, and would fall afoul of the rules. Therefore I am disclosing (in full) what the edit was, along with notifying people that it has been made.

:new_moon: I believe this should offset any problems that making the edit might otherwise hold.

You realise that now?

:new_moon: Obviously? I thought, prior to that point, I might be able to come up with some rousing logic to direct the votes away from I. So when I didn’t do that, I then came to the conclusion (realizing) that I am likely to get hung.

:new_moon: Doing so because my belief in my ability to counteract this fate turned out to be false.

:new_moon: And yes, I am watching the thread this closely.

:new_moon: I don’t want to die after all!

How about no and get to work.

i’m popping back in because i’m not sure i’ll be available at EoD — i’m going to play mahjong irl so i may not remember to come back on

i’m a little disappointed since im at an all time low in confidence as far as my reads go. i am on achro right now since of all the different directions thread has been pulled today, the pancakes/achro clash felt most likely to contain a wolf and i wasn’t seeing the case against pancakes

Getting awfully defensive is only make the grip harder