Wiretapper13er [13/13, Day 1]

this feels pretty bad faith lol i feel like honestly my d1 has been more Lets Get Down to Business and solve-y than usual

i really liked their posts wrt mech -

specifically this just feels really insane to say as wolf

even these highkey

im not locked in on it obv, id say its a fairly weak read (as given d1) but like ya

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Like seriously let’s think about this. 545 posts in, I’ve given several town reads and then proceeded to press in several directions in novel ways that have clearly agitated (ie excited/caused movement) the thread and led to new directions. I am, regardless of my alignment, someone who is moving and shaking the thread and trying to allow ideas and perspectives to flourish. sure this is in my wolf range, i’m always going to be that guy, but to claim it is solely in my wolf range is a take beneath you. if you’re big mad I voted for you, realize if hippo is a wolf then this only serves to give him rope to hang himself. If you’re town, realize that if I am a wolf I am exposing myself given if you flip town and I have noted in thread I can read you that I have to explain that away instead of simply placating you.

I’m just jotting down notes at this point and shaking people down for their lunch money, I have no idea what other than a head injury could make you think this is a wolf only line for me tbh.

anyway I have pt bbl

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pt is physical therapy, in case zone asks

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derpclear denied.

don’t townread me for this

if i am wolf and don’t think the game is balanced well (which it wouldn’t be if there are 6 self confirmable townies lol) i will comment on this absurdity in thread

saying ā€œdont town read me for some xā€ is usually >rand wolf so ill give u that
but that aside, those roles are pretty clearly not confirmable so like lmao

wotevuh

let me re eval so i don’t tunnel into soweli

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UNVOTE

i think its very easy to explain away your vote on a player you traditionally read well as wolf. just going ā€œI wouldve tmid themā€ (veiled in prettier words) explains away that sentiment, this is a level 0 reason to town read someone (for pushing someone they read well) and i think it would be disengenous of me to pretend as though you cant do that as wolf. its not very difficult. i dislike your framing of that as something you couldnt do as wolf - you read almost everyone on FoL pretty well, you have to push players you read well and thats part of the game

ok and if you eventually land on something i can agree with i can lay off of you for now, but atm i think that your general gameplay is wolf sided and youre pushing players i view to be town (including myself). i voted you before you voted me, its clearly not just omgus and youre framing it as such for no reason

I’m rubbing my temples together now because upon thinking about it I don’t really like this claim anymore? It’s so trivially easy to find out each other’s real playernames in two pages and unlimited texts — there’s no reason they wouldn’t be able to coordinate every night from N1

So what’s even the point of the abstraction I don’t get it

Nah. Although willing to give Hippo a townlesn here.

Willing to move ACE to null basdd on the further info.

Yes they do.

Seems that way. Giggles

Fair.

It’s a joke.

I can confirm it. Tutuu’s wolfrange is the entire universe though. I don’t think he can ever be outside it.

Honestly, Tutuu feels like a villager that has lost confidence in himself here. It feels weird however. Tutuu, you really should have more confidence in yourself. You’re probably one of the 5 best players on the site. I believe in you.

Yes you do.

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Soweli is just rubbing me the wrong way right now. VOTE: Soweli

I feel ancient now.

I think we both know who to tatget with our ability tonihht partner. Tutuu here.

Nah. He’ll be alive tomorrow too.

I have literally only ever done it once as a wolf.

Feels villagery.

Really weird role that aachro is vlaiming to have here. j/k

No he doesn’t do thst as a villager. No one does.

Even if Pancakes is my partner, he’s acting extremely wolfy right now and I don’t like it. Slmost never w/w with Achro here.

Two texts and unlimited pages.

I just quite simply don’t see it

point of confusion that in itself can be read as awkwardness

following it to the next step upon prompted and then she kind of vibes on this for a while which i suppose she is kind of ruminating but it’s mechanical stuff i do not care for

i think the idea of a day text really doesn’t fit & it feels like the sort of thing one would say to appear uninformed, especially it’s easy to slot in for like ā€˜wow we don’t have enhanced texting abilities why is this’

this is basic but also sort of bad to say worst of both worlds.

It kind of feels like it’s more or less just a volume read, which is a rather lazy way of reading willow here?

true but boring. it’s an inoffensive way of getting the play across but i think it’s very slightly a wolfy angle of dissuading the mech. I don’t like talking about mech because this is a game where the mafiateam is not able to strategize, and by solidifying the patterns of theory that we’re working with we are giving them more information and also i find it boring. You don’t like it because you think it’s necessarily a distraction (which is also a very handwavy thing. you need to know where to look, which in practice people don’t so ~fair). I’m also a bit ehh on the re-iterating of reads here especially what with the lost wolf thing it’s the sort of signaling i would expect for a wolf here just on a subtle level. Don’t think about that one too much

There’s no like attempt to get into tutuu’s head here? You just kinda say it’s bad play without thinking about where it would come from as either alignment.

ok new take there’s a sort of thought-terminatingness in the brevity here , I think frost’s logic does seem somewhat uninspired but it’s kind of just like not trying to improve on reading frost but just kind of accepting that you can’t in a kind of odd way that sets you up for whatever you want to do with the slot later, or if partnered it’s a good way to say you think he’s wolf without taking any responsibility.

can i just repeat what i said earlier about how viewing this as strong players ramming into each other rather than a productive form of conflict is a wolfy perspective here aimed at looking through the thread towards what generates mishangs

I… was more meh towards this earlier i thought luka’s opener was pretty towny early on and thus thought this was a bad post of dia’s for dismissing it as trolling, I think my thoughts got kinda lost in the fog though? But again it’s kind of they don’t really try to do anything else with it

I really don’t like this one! I feel like people have been quick to townread Ace which makes it really easy for her to either be a wolf and survive or be town and then people point out that she’s not been that towny proportionate to the things people have said about her and then she gets shrughanged. ā€œOh but soweli this was not a serious responseā€ I am aware but the lack of like talking about this is bad i want to discuss this with dia and they elude me!!!

I was like wow this is a really interesting way of thinking about things. I wonder who would be thinking about how many clears are in the game. oh.

this feels soooo unearned dia what did you mean by this you’re just kind of saying a thing and the vibes feel so off and then they don’t realy engage with me when i (somewhat obscuredly) try to get this point across it’s a way to try to use their good-looking posting to make me get into the pattern of thought that ā€˜oh yeah dia’s just town’ but it failed. i don’t think dia!v would be this confident in themselves

It is soooooooo good to be back (back does not mean good in fact it kind of means bad this is a post that will get me yelled at especially since it’s been a while but i miss the thrill. not exceedingly unnecssarily long i hope)

im not your partner, that was a joke. if you want to vote me for it so i can just die d1 feel free

vote dia vote dia vote dia

the wolves (wallposters) are dominating thread with powerwolfing (quote walls)

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also he does lol since its not that hard
a w!achro needs town to vote, a v!achro doesnt need town to vote. literally any player does the basics of… trying to find town d1, which i dont think achro is doing in a serious capacity

denial accepted