Wiretapper13er [5/13, Day 4]

VOTE: soweli

The point was that you dont have a solid reason & i cant do anything about that, i was expecting more

Whyd you ask me this what does it tell you

It piqued my curiosity while I was reading

Actually, I think I know a way we can figure out who the wolves are

Every mentally capable person on earth is teleported into a room, alone, with no way to contact anybody else. In front of you are two buttons. One blue, one red.

If a majority of living people press the blue button, everyone who pushes a button lives

If a majority of living people press the red button, everyone who pressed the red button lives

Would you press the blue button or the red button?

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Because I didn’t get the vibe that either of the two were wolves from my interactions and my read through

Why

Anyway, blue button

I like the phrasing that makes it so not pushing a button kills you

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Boring!

I… see

Town

Always have been

:closed_umbrella: Acting as if the question has one answer proves either philosophical immaturity or an admirable certainty in one’s moral code that is indistinguishable at a glance from that immaturity.

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i think proobably blue?
i mean it’s a voting situation so your own choice only has a marginal effect on the total outcome & you can convince yourself red is better by looking at the outcomes but also presumably there are some people picking blue and not a majority necessarily picking red which are the theoretical conditions for making blue the better* choice

but this also probably does change based on how much you value your own life

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9ne option could potentially kill people and the other dont. Yes we’d all be safe if we all hit red, but we are t all hitting eed, bc im hitting blue for one, and if even like one person hits blue then everyone should hit blue

it’s just that the optimum points are at ā€˜nobody picks the blue button’ and ā€˜over 50% of people pick the blue button’.

if you’re informed on everybody else’s results, you don’t pick blue if it will mean there’s not a majority voting blue.

but in reality you’re not so then you have to factor in how you think everybody else is going to vote (and your valuations of the outcomes) and they’re also probably metagaming it too.

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Game theory wise, hitting red is optimal you always live

Morally, blue is better because it is the altruistic choice that results in everyone living

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it’s only optimal if you’re optimizing for your own survival

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Yeah exactly

And if blue loses, then well

Good riddance, I’d rather not live in a world where red wins