Wiretapper13er [8/13, Night 2]

:closed_umbrella: Hey, thread’s quiet, why not elucidate me on the finer details there?

:closed_umbrella: Are you saying that games that are totally awfully balanced basically never get through the review system, or only get through at such low rate (les’say 5% of the time) that the possibility can be entirely set aside?

:closed_umbrella: Remember, new user!

:closed_umbrella: Interesting…

I think speculating about game balance is nearly always fruitless and its an easy way to push mafia agenda. You dont know every role in thegame. You do not know how they interact. You have no idea if the game is balanced, so dont act like you do.

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This is something I honestly find upsetting because you have done this in games of mine in the past and been town and it lead to you making very, very wrong conclusions about the game and then getting upset with me, the host, because you had a misunderstanding about something

Ive also done it before as mafia to push certain worlds and agenda, notably in FAM 5. Its so easy.

Now im not gonna say that like, 2kpn from mafia is likely, I would agree its more likely rheres a vig, but im not gonna accept an argument of “the present fol doesnt accept 2 kills per nightC” bc you dont know every role in the game.

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I do still feel iffy killing tootsie bc of the fact they could literally just like Be Town

Ill talk a little more in a bit, gotta get readE for work

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:closed_umbrella: Thank you for that counter that I couldn’t make. There are certain things that sound a bit hollow coming out of the new girl’s lips, you know?

The latter. I wouldn’t say it is a total impossibility, but I would be very disappointed if a reviewer allowed infinite 2 KP.

IIRC Hippo said this, but most likely Achro died because he is a “SPK” and Leafia most likely died from an anti-claim mechanic, which is presumed to be 1-Shot Claim Vigilante. (Because she outed her own role immediately at D1.)

I appreciate your words. I will proceed to ignore them. I know my attitude is not the best, but I have zero intentions of improving it any further than what I currently have. This is me at my best behavior. I am not going to change because someone else said so.

If I end up with wrong conclusions, then let me be wrong. Let these disgusting traits be what defines me. I don’t like everything that the hosts are doing (or not doing), but overall I still like this game. (Unfortunately I cannot say anything about past games, because I no longer remember them.)

:closed_umbrella: And SPK stands for… trying to put this one back together backward, Strong Player Kill? A valuable member of the Good Team and therefore a likely kill target for Evil?

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If he’s Town, then we go after Willow on D3/D4.

Afterwards, IDC what everyone else does: I will tunnel soweli, because she is [the top suspect of my KKQ] who is still alive.

Correct. That is the term that IIRC Chomps introduced.

:closed_umbrella: I searched it in the thread: Chomps has no clue what it stands for. I used such messages to guess what the individual letters might mean.

:closed_umbrella: And only knows what it means, I mean.

@ACE, different words, same meaning.

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:closed_umbrella: Anyway, I have various ideas, but I think I want the noisy ones to wake up first, dust off their hats, get to thread, and see what they say. If you catch my drift?

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YBW… She outright admits she will just sheep diafiasco. She is openly anti-mech and I have seen no new entries from her vibe checks list.

It’s a null. She will never go outside null. She is just personality; there is nothing alignment-indicative I can read from her.


Well then. That leaves me with waiting for Willow to re-enter the thread, and pancakes to talk more. (…I’m going to ISO pancakes and see if I’d missed anything.)

(This is a disappointing pair of posts.)

@pancakes, why do you go after Hippo instead of tutuu/Willow, and how would the mech “self resolve”?

Mech self resolve… By executing Willow and letting tutuu get another check (assuming he is legit a Parity Cop)?

See, the thing is: If anyone were to ask me who I scumread more between Willow/tutuu, then it’s got to be tutuu. I don’t recall anything worth townreading Willow, but tutuu still looks worse.

Mech-wise, sure: It’d make a modicum of sense to execute Willow over tutuu. However, I don’t… want tutuu to live? FWIW, I can even bring in more mech and introduce to a Willow/tutuu W/W world, but that lacks any proper substance.

Guys i finally got a job my war is over :blush::blush::blush::blush:

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As this will be my last game for a while i will expend 10000000% of my energy to win

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They didnt need to jump on frost to save me and it was overwhelmingly better for mafia for me to go over

How is the mech going to self resolve wolves just arent going to kill any of them?

Also I apologise for being a bit of a dick earlier i have taken time away from thread and reflected