What if we just let the mech self resolve and kill the cw
easy tutuu is always town
AND THEN, ALMOST AS IF THE WOLF CHAT HAD AGREED I SHOULD LEAVE THE THREAD FOR EXACTLY 8 HOURSâŚ
I RETURN (I didnât even get a full 8 hourâs sleep! Still worked out this way.)
osu! Lessee here, Iâm obviously feeling weird about tutuu on account of the whole "Spends all of Day 1 coming to the conclusion Iâm DEFINITELY town in a really weird way, then suddenly flips on it and decides all that actually means Iâm wolf.
As for Willow⌠My head says she hasnât posted much, and then gives me a shrug due to my memory being so bad at holding things there. All I have in my memory is that she seemed âcoolerâ during the clash earlier, and I thiâiâiâiâiink that impression has me on her side in a way I should actively try to work around.
One sec, gonna iso Willow, see what I find. (AND DONâT YOU BE SAYING ITâS WOLFY FOR ME TO HAVE TO DO TH-!!!)
Gonna second the vague affinity she seemed to have with dia throughout Day 1 and early Day 2, that doesnât necessarily mean anything (especially when tutuu was voting with dia), but itâs something.
k, thatâs all I got.
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Vote Willow
If u dont want to resolve this thunderdome today you can give me an extra night. The mafia has to kill me or ill get another check lmao. Why are u guys considering killing me when i can get another check. Itâs only correct to kill me if u lock town willow
Consider a world where me and dia are both V. Both of us can generate peeks. Mafia would have to pick and choose which one to kill. Ur doing ur job for them if u help with that. Like even if u dont trust me - there are 2 wolves outside me and willow. U are going to have to try to kill them at some point in this game, rehardless if its before me/willow or after
I think ive been obv town all game but what do i know 
Wouldnât the argument also be that your peeks are more reliable?
Literally:
. . .
Hang on a minute. [REDACTED] Wait, I already knew that. You are the second top suspect for (my) KKQ after all, so your postsâ value are lowered to begin with. (Why did I even bother taking you seriously?)
Listen bud, there is a literal thunderdome between tutuu and Willow right now, so if you donât vote tutuu, then you ought to vote Willow.
I personally donât believe tutuu is Town, so I voted him. (Then again, I donât really townread Willow either, so I donât really care who dies between them.)
In that world, Willow lied about not sending me a message, and my KKQ message came from soweli. The kill choice is obvious though. (Albeit perhaps not from your POV as either alignment.)
*calculates game trajectory*
Oh wow, yeah. We really can afford only one mistake. If Today is a miss, then D3 will be MYLO.
Objectively it always makes sense to vote to sleep by then, but⌠I donât think we are collectively rational enough to do that.
Well, almost.
Iâm not saying this is an especially likely balance situation but we must note the possibility of the mafia having access to two kills tonight.
I donât think we should act as if thatâs true, but others might disagree, so there it is.
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I refuse. It makes no sense balance-wise. Perhaps a certain retired reviewer whoâs no longer in FoL mightâve accepted it, but the present FoL doesnât condone giving the Mafia 2 KP. Two kills per night is just too much, unless itâs a bigger game than a 13âer, which this game is not.
Hey, threadâs quiet, why not elucidate me on the finer details there?
Are you saying that games that are totally awfully balanced basically never get through the review system, or only get through at such low rate (lesâsay 5% of the time) that the possibility can be entirely set aside?
Remember, new user!
InterestingâŚ
I think speculating about game balance is nearly always fruitless and its an easy way to push mafia agenda. You dont know every role in thegame. You do not know how they interact. You have no idea if the game is balanced, so dont act like you do.
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This is something I honestly find upsetting because you have done this in games of mine in the past and been town and it lead to you making very, very wrong conclusions about the game and then getting upset with me, the host, because you had a misunderstanding about something
Ive also done it before as mafia to push certain worlds and agenda, notably in FAM 5. Its so easy.
Now im not gonna say that like, 2kpn from mafia is likely, I would agree its more likely rheres a vig, but im not gonna accept an argument of âthe present fol doesnt accept 2 kills per nightCâ bc you dont know every role in the game.
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I do still feel iffy killing tootsie bc of the fact they could literally just like Be Town
Ill talk a little more in a bit, gotta get readE for work
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Thank you for that counter that I couldnât make. There are certain things that sound a bit hollow coming out of the new girlâs lips, you know?
The latter. I wouldnât say it is a total impossibility, but I would be very disappointed if a reviewer allowed infinite 2 KP.
IIRC Hippo said this, but most likely Achro died because he is a âSPKâ and Leafia most likely died from an anti-claim mechanic, which is presumed to be 1-Shot Claim Vigilante. (Because she outed her own role immediately at D1.)
I appreciate your words. I will proceed to ignore them. I know my attitude is not the best, but I have zero intentions of improving it any further than what I currently have. This is me at my best behavior. I am not going to change because someone else said so.
If I end up with wrong conclusions, then let me be wrong. Let these disgusting traits be what defines me. I donât like everything that the hosts are doing (or not doing), but overall I still like this game. (Unfortunately I cannot say anything about past games, because I no longer remember them.)
And SPK stands for⌠trying to put this one back together backward, Strong Player Kill? A valuable member of the Good Team and therefore a likely kill target for Evil?
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If heâs Town, then we go after Willow on D3/D4.
Afterwards, IDC what everyone else does: I will tunnel soweli, because she is [the top suspect of my KKQ] who is still alive.
Correct. That is the term that IIRC Chomps introduced.
I searched it in the thread: Chomps has no clue what it stands for. I used such messages to guess what the individual letters might mean.