Wiretapper13er [9/13, Day 2]

ohhh
Yeah thats fair, dont think its super ai of me but iget what u mean

Work has been not as busy as i thought
We keep getting breaks bc stuff goes wrong lol

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I would assume somebody sending anonymous message would take care to change the way they speak?

Not really much to say about this otherwise.

Im kinda tired still im trying to process the thunderdome sidestep from luka/chomps as not wolfy but i think the logic is seeping into me? And the wagons are still good for like information-gathering which is the main concern.

Mmm.

I am using my lunch break to do ISO’s and then logging out to do other things sorry I thought this game would start a week earlier but still don’t want to slank I am limited on time

Willow

I think I liked Willow tonally at the start of D1, a feeling that mostly trailed off and reduced to null since she is ultimately posting about mechanics like always. I do sort of buy the derp in #1031 and I don’t think Willow is known to fake these. She seems simpatico with Zone (I disagree that Zone is simpatico) but they do think about the game and design similarly.

If we flip t!Tutuu Willow is obviously outed wolf, I am a moron, and the GMs should feel bad about themselves for letting this role into the game. However, I think Willow would be more visibly pissed off in thread if this were the case lol. Willow is LEAN TOWN for me.

Worth noting — if t!Tutuu flips, Leafia’s partner is almost definitely also town, as this would provide a reason that a parity cop with a check on a wolf survived the night (Leafia telegraphed her heal there in thread). If they were wolf, they could just pick anyone else and kill both Leafia and Tutuu.

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Youbie

From her first substantive post in 308, I aligned with where YWB’s head is at — t!Leafia, t!Willow, w!Tutuu, w!Zone. This could be distancing, and I haven’t felt the energy I felt last game with a very towny YWB, but that was a different context. Under my current understanding of the game she’s quite distanced from the people I suspect, but this could be intentionally. I think she’s probably Neutral right now, but I want to see her cook more. She’s probably very tied to Hippo, and she moves up a little bit if Hippo is town.

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Pancakes

Luka has only made 4 posts today, his D1 tunnel died and flipped town, and none of his posts today have made any sense to me, not least of which is the derp in 1305 (I assumed it was 10-3 given the presence of power roles but maybe I’m stupid 11-2 feels unfair). I guess he’s Lean Scum but I don’t feel very strongly the machinations of his mind are an enigma.

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I find myself getting rapidly lazier as I type these.

Soweli is locktown she loves pocketing me and I was so very pocketable D1 I don’t think she treats my slot that way at all as wolf. Vibes feel different than last game anyways, maybe she’s goated though I dunno

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Hippo got 4 votes D1 and didn’t go over so I think he’s reasonably unpaired with the people on his wagon and reasonably paired with Tutuu / YBW / ACE, probably flip the latter two before him cause I have liked his posting but yeah. That’s where I’m at with Hippo, Needs More Context

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I’ll wait for this is what I’m saying

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Chomps is Lean Town right now I think he’s barking up trees in a way that doesn’t ping me as agenda’d. He swears he’s not effort polarized and I will believe him there but this is a good t!Chomps game if t!Chomps is true

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ACE could maybe be third wolf I’ll say Lean Scum other people have stronger opinions than I do and I could see it. ISOing them gives me a headache and I find it tough to read ACE right now

I don’t like Chomps’ Ace push, feels like they kind of just chose someone to push and havent engaged much outside of it

Also them being off wagon D1 makes sense if theyre mafia (obvs only i know that wagons were T/T)

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Dia ur so towny why do u gotta be ic

Also
I thought i hadnt aeen much from luka but 4 posts is :joy_wolf:

VOTE: pancakes

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Dia what are ur thoughts on the whole tootsie willow debacle?

Anyways let’s talk about Zone because I think he is literally making those messages the fuck up. I believe the intent of Zone’s claim was to provide further evidence to support successive miskills on myself and Willow, only foiled because I jebaited the wolfteam into framing the Wiretapper because I played up how miskillable I was Day 1.

Starting from 944, I think it’s a little bit implausible that Zone would receive two messages, both of them fake, from the wolf team. I think in practice, Zone wanted to pass this off as one wolf not claiming a message they did send and one message being a townsperson who was faked. Very conveniently for Zone, who claimed this before Tutuu said anything, Tutuu happened to have the exact two players who sent him messages in the parity cop ā€œconflicting alignmentā€ result.

There are a few issues at play here:

  • I (KKQ) would have no reason to send a message saying ā€œI’m Leafia’s mason partner trust meā€ to Zone of all people only to turn around and flip Leafia D2, exposing myself as a liar immediately.
  • I don’t know why Willow would lie about sending a message saying ā€œI am suspicious of Tutuuā€, nor why she would bother relaying that to Zone. I have never seen Willow express a social read so confidently that it would get in the way of mechanics, especially to say something she could literally just express in thread.

In short: I think this is probably overplaying/TMI knowing the forthcoming result Tutuu would be sharing. I guess there is an outside chance that it could be exactly Zone/Willow/someone and they have an action peek or something. That feels a lot more contrived though.

There are some things that maybe feel like a town who is going down stupid lines of thinking, though. The insistence on grammar being indicative is very weird — if I wanted to convince you I was me, I would probably type in lower case (which I did) because that’s how I type.

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:closed_umbrella: i understand it’s what this community has settled on calling another (historical?) plural system among its number, and also it aligns with other terminology with a, dependent on your philosophical view, similar enough or greatly resonant meaning

:closed_umbrella: and also it isn’t a major problem, i’m not gonna start finger-stabbing at anyone who does it just down to them not accommodating this preference of mine

:closed_umbrella: but

:closed_umbrella: i would greatly appreciate it if you did not call us a hydra plsnthnk

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Oh sorry my bad my point is I am taking you seriously and reading each relevant party independently / taking notes of potential dissonance

I think right now you’re mildly town though I would like to solidify a stronger opinion on you. your newness to some FoLisms has felt genuine thus far but a wolf could also feel these feelings and express them

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I would say my rough order of reads is:
Myself
Soweli
Willow Hippo
ACE YBW
Pancakes Chomps
Zone Tutuu

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