It appears we have a game on our hands
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i dont know if it’s my ego speaking but i feel like my townreads are most certainly wrong or i would have been killed by now
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okay actually if my ego was speaking then i’d still probably be tunneling my same reads but i find it unlikely i have all the wolves poe’d
and based on where me and tutuu disagreed and where me and lemon disagreed (judging from her eod votes) i’m inclined to think i’m probably misclearing hippo or bystander
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this sequence confused me at the time because it was only hippo that gave a townread on pandora at the time
and she implies that she doesn’t want to save pandora but that her actions making it more likely pandora was saved is a good thing which is what feels TMI-ish and i think what hippo is getting at today too
Gar has been much townier than both May and Hippo combined I feel. This is a bad push with bad reasoning behind it currently.
i don’t really wolfread gar’s posts today but it just feels blown out of proportion
not a comment on alignment
rather i’m not getting anything out of it
tbh i still don’t really think it’s her, but i can see the vision
i don’t want to like hammer this in because i’ve kinda been taking this game in a not great direction so i’m cognizant of the fact garfooled is someone i could be wrong on, but i think it’s more likely to be someone else
and even though i’ve been wrong the townreads i’ve felt best about are dying and flipping town even if my wolfreads (which weren’t really even wolfreads, more like poe) were wrong
like the thing where the entire lobby just sort of passively absorbs my pushes and agrees with them makes it hard for me to figure out who actually takes issue with the direction of the game because i know that the person propagating the idea of nolan/pandora wagons was town and the entire lobby just took it on board (including flipped villagers) so everyone kinda loses any sense of accountability
it’s a similar thing to what happened in that dicey dungeons game where no one really argued against anything i was saying and no one else had any real opposing stances so i couldn’t figure out where i was wrong
instinctively it doesn’t really make sense to me for it to be hippo just based on how many waves he’s been causing, or if it is him then his wolfteam isn’t in danger and… like who would that be? i don’t think hippo and may are wolves together. i think he really only makes sense with poe’d players, and if he is teamed with poe’d players i don’t think he would have been taking issue with the pandora sleepwalk elim gamestate
may uhh. may kinda did a similar thing. until i talked him out of it. which is convenient but i can’t exactly fault him for that, because i basically gave him the out myself if he’s a wolf or if he’s town then i fucked up his read, so it ties into what i said above
basically this game (except like hippo, eaves, retrograde):
and even if there are wolves who have been pushing against the consensus for the sake of looking good it is unlikely that all of them did that which is why looking at the people who were fine with it feels like the best place to go
and that does take me to bystander and frostwolf
i was already kinda suspecting the latter but bystander i thought was town based on the assumption that she wouldn’t elect to play this game as a wolf by just saying “idk how to play im bad” the entire phase but like, i don’t really think that holds up anymore and lemon was beginning to suspect her at the end of the day (judging from her votes) whereas i basically just stopped her from going over with my legacy post lol
that said it is still probably copium to assume that we would be in a gamestate like this if all the high influence posters (hippo, may, gar) were town so idk man
this group includes myself by the way but i just excluded myself for my own train of thought lol
i notice that frost wasn’t actually enthused by the pandora wagon but his reasoning boiled down to “slanker wagon boring” so idk how much cred i should be giving him for that because that’s like typical wolf stance on LHF town wagon. i think he held it up even when he was getting wagoned himself though which is more relevant
how is hippo accusing you of being a wolf TMI from your pov lol
TMI as in too confident in a read
That I thought they were a wolf faking their confidence in the belief that I’m scum
If that makes sense
Someone uninformed would be more hesitant about their push
How are they so sure I’m a wolf? There was no hesitation despite their TR on me yesterday, the only thing offsetting about me was my behavior at EoD (to them)
Like “AH HAH I FOUND YOU, YOU SCUM”
Immediately at SoD
And the immediate vote
Felt unsettling
oh i see what you mean, but TMI is not the correct descriptor there, if someone is confidently pushing you incorrectly it is more of an indicator of a lack of TMI generally. but i’m not sure i’d say it would apply here because from your pov i can understand why it feel that way
the word you’re looking for is agenda probably
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I dont wanna do that thing where the poe was correct but we just killed the villagers in it first and then decided everything is wrong when the wolves were next in line to die and kill a villager who was pushing the semi-correct consensus but it also feels wrong to just act like the game is probably fine rn when imo it’s extremely rare to have zero flipped wolves by day 3 without wolves having pushed the narrative
eaves did vote pandora and retrograde was fine with it too but they were still giving some novel directions. it’s sort of hard for me to care though when they didn’t seriously try to push them
retro’s post today “i’ll let this happen” about hippo/gar/may felt kinda twtbaw-ish if you believe in that sort of thing
eh actually fuck it pandora and nolan didnt post anything redeeming so i dont really think being complacent with the gamestate is actually all that indicative
VOTE: bystander
VOTE: frostwolf
they probably aren’t wolves together but i would be surprised if there wasn’t exactly one wolf in here
i don’t think frost’s behaviour yesterday can be construed as “activating” which is what tutuu warned us about. he really didn’t pick up the pace at all and that sort of complacency is not really what i associate with his town game
lemon was suspicious of both of them. tutuu was suspicious of frost. i don’t think these players were wrong on everything, especially not lemon, or i think i would have died over them