you own a shotgun?
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i live in texas
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oh gimme gimme gimme
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i need to aimlessly fire it at people in the fast lane in the hopes it breaks their tyres
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the old family 20 gauge double barrel hunting shotgun
a pair of .22 rifles for critters and whatnot
and an actual self defense tool, for waving around and being scary
kid named HORIZONTAL YELLOW LINE
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I think substinence hunting is pretty defensible when it comes to meat
but also i doubt literally anyone i talk to online is hunting bc they literally have to
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am curious to hear ur thoughts on being veggie
Trying to find the Jet Lag meme I saw last week.
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There’s one that was amusing which was basically a really bad “I am in Paris” photoshop from like now 10 years
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my point was more that it’s not about the choice whether to be eaten that matters, it’s the choice to kill unnecessarily and industrialized nature of the entire process.
and that segues into this question, and i guess it’s important to start by talking about choices. italy’s comment sort of alluded to this, but when we talk about industrialized animal farming, we’re dealing with what’s essentially a juggernaut and there’s nothing an individual can do to meaningfully alter its course, but i also disagree that the nihilistic stance is correct either. our choices do matter at scale. one vegan does very little, but all vegans, vegetarians, and variations therein collectively do, even if it’s small. it’s also good to point out here that i do think the largest issue is the industrialized nature of it, and that the scale of it is the key thing to focus on.
so, vegetarians still consume animal products like eggs or milk, and arguably not consuming meat is good with regards to potentially scaling back the death of animals, but most vegans would point out that the demand for eggs and milk still drive exploitation and death, even if indirectly. milk actually moreso than eggs, but i don’t want to get into the details. with eggs you can do things like buy eggs from farms that raise chickens under what i’ll generously call ethical condition, and that individual choice is perhaps more moral. on a wider view though, grocery managers and what not still see data like “yeah egg purchases are going strong” and the eggs that come more ethical farms are also more expensive. and what we’re seeing now is more and more farms engaging in underhanded practices in order to label their products as “cage free” or “free range” while not meaningfully changing things for the chickens, and siphoning away buyers from the brands doing the actual work because they’re cheaper. so, like, the only way to really know that you’re doing the right thing is either do an unreasonable amount of research or take the vegan approach of not buying eggs at all.
i forget the term for it, but there are also folks who are vegan in their personal purchasing habits but not strictly in their consumption. they sort of take italy’s view of “the animal is already dead” a step further, and have the requirement be one where they did not contribute to the demand. for example, you’re at a party and there’s buffalo chicken dip. under that framework, it’s fair game because you didn’t buy it or ask for it, and, well, it’s better if someone eats it now that it’s on the table. i think there’s some merit to that, and that using every part of the buffalo is generally a good thing. however, that’s another quagmire of like “are you really sure you’re not contributing to demand,” but it’s still better than having more conventional eating habits.
that’s what i think about vegetarians ultimately; it’s better than the conventional alternative. i’m someone who used to be a vegan, and relapsed because it’s hard. there are small changes that i’ve stuck with like i don’t buy cow’s milk now and i do try to buy eggs from pasture raised chickens. i also aspirationally want to work back towards eating less meat and animal products, and i would love to get to a point where it’s more of a special occasion thing than a regular occurrence. i’m not gonna conform to any labels if i do that, but that’s okay because i think that’d be more sustainable for me long term and sustainability is the key to these things.
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vegetarianism is changing the method of suffering for torture in favour of the slaughter
i don’t think it’s strictly amoral to eat meat and everyone who does it is being bad, but i think going out of your way to be part of the 0.3% reduction in sales is commendable. individually, while it’s good to try to rally together to change something, cutting animal products out of your diet is sorta… life changing. your expenses usually go up (depending on the area), what you can eat goes way down, and depending on how not eating animal products makes you feel your mood can kinda change for the worse. it’s either suffer or do nothing on an individual scale, but if ~hundreds of thousands of people do the same thing as you it makes a small but not non-existent dent
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i meant to cut that before i sent that i forgot
- 0.3% isn’t an actual figure i made it up on the spot
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I’m trying to find the one that was in hindsight a spoiler for the finale this week.
Spoiler For Finale In Question
Photo of Ben and Adam: “Guy who’s winning but is constantly stressed”
Photo of Sam and Mike: “Guy who’s losing but is talking trash”
this is the first jet lag i’ve kinda took a break from watching. it was. um. not fantastic.
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It was kind of a mess, but I also think the comments are being a little too vicious.
i also phrased this as specifically targeting meat for some reason, i meant all animal products past the ~first sentence
they’re gonna really need to pull it back next season… i need to see tag in europe 4…
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Jet Lag equivalent of this:
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