23456th poster gets a cookie (cookie thread (Part 7)) (Part 11)

just instinctively opened msft edge instead of chrome on my home laptop because I use it for work. cooked.

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also while deep in numbers I saw a 6,789 out in the while which was pretty fun

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i also look out for benfords law just for fun because i cant unsee it

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*it was April 20th how did i mess that up

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wait i couldve been referring to something else

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newer comedy movies have been adding, like, very internet comedy people recently. zac oyama popped up in a gen-x-targetting sex comedy I just watched. ivy wolk was in this terrible movie with keanu reeves (I know she did anora too but). bugonia isn’t a comedy but it’s listed as one on streaming services and they have stavros halkias which is probably because he’s greek but still. they’ve been sticking them in there in these new releases

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mostly they are just cast as “literally themselves, but an occupation”

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nuemera island has a hell boss fight that’s almost as bad as chapter 2’s first? boss

it’s not even really a boss fight it’s just a 3 phase gauntlet with one impossible to fail stage but
yeesh

i have never been so invested in british politics in my entire life as i have been this month

“How do you kill that which has no life?”

I suddenly got curious, but I wonder if I need to test reviewers’ reading comprehension skills as well.

It sure would be a darn shame if the tragedy of “execute outside tie” were to happen again.

If the female version of the word actor is actress why isnt the female version of the word rapper rapress

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I’d imagine because there aren’t many so they never thought of needing to distinguish

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06a

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D tier bait. See me after class.

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Rapper isn’t gendered

D-

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Gendered word endings like that were once used universally but have now largely fallen out of style and are maintained only in a few common words (waitress, actress, seamstress)

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It wasnt bait i was curious

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Well, English has been significantly influenced by several languages over the centuries (millennia?), and this is one of those situations where that comes into play. Actor (agent noun for the verb “act”) is of Latin origin and Rapper (agent noun for the verb “rap”) is of Germanic origin. The suffix -er is Germanic and the most common agentic suffix in English. I think it’s masculine in German, but in English it’s usually gender neutral (and contemporary English is generally gender neutral). Latin on the other hand is gendered, and the suffix -tor is used to form masculine agent nouns from verbs. Gladiator is one who gladiates. Imperiator, senator, inquisitor, etc.

(Edit: Oh yeah, it’s probably worth pointing out that none of those are gendered in English. We don’t have feminine forms for any of them even though they are all agent nouns of Latin origin using the -tor suffix. 3 of those were not professions that anyone had in relatively recent English speaking nations, but the US has had senators for over 200 years. Digging further, I must have been mixing up actor with some other word because it doesn’t seem like actrix was ever commonly used. Actress was used in English as early as 1608, and it was derived from the French actrice which was derived from the Latin actrix. -ess sounding like the French -ice may explain why there is apparent suffix confusion for actress. France (based on a quick search) did not have a senate until 1958 (and their feminine form of senator is senatrice!) which might be why we don’t gender senator in English, or it might just be that it also wasn’t a relatively common profession in English speaking countries until the late 1700s. I’m not sure, but this has been a fun rabbit hole!)

The Latin suffix for feminine agent nouns from verbs is -trix and, while it’s almost entirely unused in modern English, was used historically from time to time. Actrix was once the commonly used noun in English to refer to a female actor, but there was a shift to using actor as gender neutral for a few years. Then, there was a shift back to regendering actor, but because -trix had fallen out of common use, the -ess suffix (from French but also of Latin origin) was used because it was a feminine suffix for non-agent nouns (prince → princess, priest → priestess, duke → duchess). So, in English, -ess is now the far more common feminine suffix for agent nouns of Latin origin and is sort of a weird quirk of English’s development that it’s used for agent nouns.

If you looked hard enough, you could probably find agent nouns in English that used a suffix that doesn’t match the origin of the verb, but generally it’s going to line up. Examples like the one you pointed out seem like an inconsistency, but are (for the most part) consistent with the languages the verbs are derived from.

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