27772nd poster gets a cookie (cookie thread (Part 7)) (Part 10)

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#24053

beg your pardon?

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#24054

what seperates you from other people

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#24055

I’m going to talk about the phrase “the purpose of a system is what it does” specifically because I have more to say about that.

I think the strongest version of this argument (“a system which is ‘intended’ to do A but instead does B should be treated as if it does B when assessing its functionality”) is obviously true, but that the phrase is often used to ascribe purpose and intention to emergent phenomena in a way that implies that they were purposefully created to do B, which is a bad thing to do and which people do way too much

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#24056

Nothing

I think I should feel obligated but dont

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#24057

I think the dichotomy I made about “practical” vs “impractical” being “art” vs “oncology” isn’t great and thus the question doesn’t really make sense with the examples.

Art that there is a demand for is probably something I’d consider practical. The question I intend to ask is more, like, let’s say you dedicate your life to making art and nobody likes it, nobody wants it

#24058

okay so what we’ve learnt is that youre all terrible at this

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#24059

Ok I think the questions are actually ineffective at characterizing my thoughts on the topic

#24060

I rushed it out cause I knew you’d move on if I didn’t

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#24061

you had thirty minutes to think

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#24062

I was thinking about my joke

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#24063

And doing my homework I’m actively doing my homework

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#24064

you should have better priorities instead of blaming me for your folly

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#24065

My priorities are my homework

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#24066

you definitely were just sitting there and watching at some point

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#24067

but thats fine! we’re all friends!

#24068

and friends don’t hurt friends

#24069

Hurt friends hurt friends

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#24070

I do look down somewhat on people who dedicate their life to something that doesn’t do anything. I don’t think anybody should be outright coerced to work for other people’s benefit, but I wish everybody felt drive to do so. And I don’t feel that emergent economic incentives that make it easier to live a life as an electrician than a not-extremely-popular artist are excessively unjust. Not, like… starvation-level incentives, nobody should starve, but luxury-level incentives. Which makes me a bit of an asshole, but such is life

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#24071

everyone does something
you just don’t realise it

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#24072

I have no opposition to artists who make stuff that does reach people and does improves people’s lives, hence why I corrected my original statement