27772nd poster gets a cookie (cookie thread (Part 7)) (Part 10)

that sounds like a cultural problem

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worth addressing!

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it’s ok I’m used to it it also happened in robotics :sob:

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robotics may also have a culture problem

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I wrote my college essay somewhat about wanting to break stereotypes and encourage more girls to do engineering by leading by example however it turns out I’m just viewed as an exception :facepunch::facepunch::facepunch: :fire::fire::fire:

which I probably should have just expected

buh

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not reason to do nothing tbh!

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I considered engineering at one point
I quickly found out I hated physics

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You are very strong

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genuinely worth addressing (preferably privately?) if you have any trust in the people in question

otherwise if you guys have somebody in charge of culture, or else you can push to be that person

mega mega mega not good for team culture to have casual exclusionary comments be seen as acceptable to make

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but like a ā€œhey im not offended but i also didn’t appreciate when you said [comment]ā€ will probably make most well-meaning people be like ā€œshit sorryā€

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I have somewhat of an issue bringing it up because it makes me feel like I reinforce certain stereotypes if I say it makes me uncomfortable

and I realize this is like
prolly a big reason why it happens but yeah

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sometimes all it takes is a bit of self-reflection

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yeah no I 100% get that

and thats why I say to do it privately

making a big deal out of it is deffo counterproductive

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but like if they don’t know then they have no reason to reflect or change

so it is worth speaking up

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it’s difficult to bring up becuase I’m not even entirely sure it makes me
Super uncomfortable? Becuase most of the time they do it like entirely ironing (like they’re not actually trying to degrade women and they know it’s not okay to joke about)

Key word MOST of the time

But like I mostly just wish the jokes didn’t exist in the first place because they still like subtly reinforce certain concepts I don’t agree with

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*ironically

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so like

as I said

you can say you aren’t offended if you aren’t

but it’s still probably worth speaking up

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imo ironic ā€œhaha women suckā€ jokes are a very fast and easy gateway for unironic jokes to happen, or jokes that are ā€œironicā€ but actually reflect some of the speakers genuine beliefs

Its not always bad by any means but it really depends on the enviornment and can easily become harmful

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liiike it’s not an offensive joke really it’s just probably still a bad joke to make if you cared about dismantling stereotypes, I think

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