A Certain Scientific Railgun Mafia - Game Over: Rainbow's End [Mafia Victory]

[JakeTheWolfie]

Like, was your feedback that you successfully roleblocked Zone, or that you were just successful in targeting Zone?

Also, if you townread Zone, then why did you roleblock them?

[Isolde]

My Conclusion:

If Night is Empowerer I’m almost willing to clear them.
Also means Zone is highly likely town as well, (or their both mafia).
Basically Night!Empowerer means them and Zone are the same alignment

The dude I always think is wolf
Atlas

Lacklustre/nothing enough from them
Gorta
Whysper

Paranoia
WindwardAway - Ascetic Claim
Hippopablompoyeetus - Arctic Partner

Pretty sure are Town
Kiiruma
Helz

Leaving
JaketheWolfie - Last Neighbour
BradLand

[Isolde]

@JakeTheWolfie

Like, was your feedback that you successfully roleblocked Zone, or that you were just successful in targeting Zone?

Also, if you townread Zone, then why did you roleblock them?

I’ll say the same thing to you I said to night.
There can be a role that can Roleblock that doesn’t have to just be a Roleblocker.

[Isolde]

Reeee
Now me thinks Night might do the empowerment as mafia but I’m not sure.

Then again their reactions to me, makes more sense from a Townie point of view then a wolves which makes me more conflicted.

[JakeTheWolfie]

Okay, but what about the first part?

Are you sure that you actually roleblocked Zone, or that you were merely successful in targeting Zone?

[Isolde]

Hmm ok.

So there’s wolves I think within here always:
Gorta, Whysper and Atlas
(Least 1)

BradLand, JaketheWolfie and Night contain at least 1 as well.

Then I think that only 1 of these 2 can be wolves but I think you should vote the one if they are alive in F3.
Hippo and Wind.

[JakeTheWolfie]

I mean, if Hippo is Mafia then they could just be lying about the arctic thing for unknown reasons

[Isolde]

@JakeTheWolfie

Okay, but what about the first part?

Are you sure that you actually roleblocked Zone, or that you were merely successful in targeting Zone?

It did say that it was successful.

[Isolde]

I pointed this out before

[Isolde]

When you pointed it out to me

[JakeTheWolfie]

Yeah, but does it say that you did roleblock Zone?

In other words, do you know for a fact, based solely on the feedback you received, that Zone could not have possibly acted last night?

[Isolde]

@JakeTheWolfie

Yeah, but does it say that you did roleblock Zone?

In other words, do you know for a fact, based solely on the feedback you received, that Zone could not have possibly acted last night?

It said my action succeeded that’s all I know.

[JakeTheWolfie]

Alright, that’s better.

[Zone_Q11]

@Helz

My issue is that confidence should match reasoning. Speaking in absolutes has been an excellent indicator of scum for me over the years.

You saying someone scum reads you but you are so confident they are town they can kill you is… odd. To say the least.

FWIW I feel no different than eevee at the moment. All I gotta do now is be stuck in a neighborhood and refuse to give any reads, and I’d really be no different than him.

“Confidence should match reasoning,” but I admit that I am sometimes unreasonable. Just sometimes.

@BradLand

Did Seth actually roleblock you?

If he did: It did not work.

@JakeTheWolfie

Well, if Zone said that they did something with host confirmation, but Seth said they roleblocked Zone (presumably also with host confirmation), then at least one of Seth or Zone is lying.

AFAICR Isolde never said he got host confirmation.
I don’t think his role is the type that gets feedback.

@Hippopablompoyeetus

THIS

zone is mafia

Yes. Vote your scumlean instead of your suspects that you mentioned in your big reveal post.
…oh, I’m being serious. By all means, please execute me and resolve my role so I won’t have to go through the suffering that you will meet at D4. Because by then, 6 town would be already dead, which means that town would have to fight 7v3 or 6v4.

@WindwardAway

By far the most damning thing is the lol kill that night, and now on top of that Seth is somehow mech cc’ing Zone, so I’d be inclined to always vote Zone over Seth.

Yes. Please resolve my slot.
Forget context and any topic that could have been borne from D2’s events, and continue marching towards town’s doom. I wish you can have a good game after the annoyances (i.e. us) are gone.

@WindwardAway

Like if Zone flipped town I don’t know if I’d realistically still go for Isolde even though it would deserve scrutiny

B R U H
What’s the point of social deduction if you rely on (unreliable) mech reads in a closed setup?

@BradLand

One in Zone/Isolde and thinking it’s Isolde

Remind me why we can’t be V/V?

@JakeTheWolfie

I’m a 2-shot Ability activation detector.

Basically, if my target uses an activated ability, I will be notified.

Currently I haven’t used it because it’s fucking useless lmfao

…I am starting to notice a trend in our roles.
They are all identical.

[JakeTheWolfie]

@Zone_Q11

AFAICR Isolde never said he got host confirmation.
I don’t think his role is the type that gets feedback.

Seth did confirm that he got host confirmation that his action did succeed, so the few possibilities that I see are:

Seth/Zone is/are lying.
Zone was empowered in some way.
Seth was redirected.

[Zone_Q11]

@Isolde

Do you know 100% your action went through?

Yes. 100%.

@Kiiruma

I’m having to consider what Zone having that paint on them can mean, I’ve been thinking on it.
Zone might’ve visited someone who splatters people in paint? Perhaps someone visited Zone?

IDK if someone visited me or not.
If the paint is a passive, then Atlas is the cause of it.

@Isolde

Like I did I catch zone and is he really a wolf?
Or was Zone empowered?

FWIW it says that “my action gets processed first”.
I don’t think this should imply that I am empowered though, as evident by my N1 feedback.

@Isolde

I really wanna believe zone is town but like my action and his action suggests otherwise.

That may be the case, but it truly feels disappointing that you rely so much on your mech instead of your normal reads.
/shrug
You do your thing. You haven’t lost your WiM yet.

@WindwardAway

It’s completely feasible that Zone could have been empowered by someone who townread him last night, since he said he got RD’d to lol and his action gave useless info on D1. So maybe someone wanted his action to succeed.

Let’s be real here: If town caused all the misfortune to befall upon me, then they just won’t ever claim at this point. I still believe that it’s mainly the mafia’s agenda though.
/shrug

@Isolde

It said my action succeeded that’s all I know.

Welp. In that case we really do have a contradiction.
/shrug
Dunno what you want to do with this. It ain’t XYLO, and I’m pretty sure the heat on me is going to die any time soon, so I am actually accepting death.

[Zone_Q11]

That’s cool and all, but… when do we go back to the reads?
Y’know, the one without mech involved?
…bah. I can’t believe I’m missing mountainous.

[JakeTheWolfie]

Okay then Zone, let’s get on to reads. You start us off since you’re oh so eager to skip this topic.

[BradLand]

No, and if I was, I wouldn’t be saying it until I either stop the night kill in confidence or there’s 1 mafia member left.

[BradLand]

@Kiiruma

Brad has been all levels of WTF.
Jake and Hip both added to Brad are giving me headaches

I’ve been fucking around, but I’m still giving my opinions when I have them for alignment reads.
I can actually vibe on this site somewhat compared to the others, probably because the player base is way more chill. I haven’t had issues besides the last two games, but that’s kiiiind of because I wasn’t in the right mindset while being sick or I got extremely salty.