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Did you get that
Well everyone, the secrets out. Iām sorry.
I wont when itās deketed
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litten means like gone gone
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you understood before i said it
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We already tested this in this thread
I just died again in minecraft hardcore mode with no regen :(
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The thing is that Undertale Yellow isnāt even that sexist. I mean like it is but itās the same base passive level that everything is. The characters are written As A Gender and their natures and interests are informed by their gender to a heavy degree, something that literally everybody is always doing in writing, it wouldnāt be that out of place in a standard modern day setting. They use stock characters (e.g. Mother Turned Evil or Plucky Tomboy or what have you) and stock characters come with a gender and they maintain it.
But Undertale itself is like REALLY not sexist, as far as I can remember. Like itās exceptionally good at not doing this. And the contrast makes UTY stick out soooo bad in comparison. Thereās still gender in Undertale but itās sparing and is generally the domain of, likeā¦ old-fashioned monsters and is a thing they do rather than a thing they are.
Like Toriel and Asgore are fairly Gendered in many ways but 1. it kind of works to emphasise their feeling of Immortal and Very Traditional Royal Parents and 2. it feels like gender they have developed in response to society rather than something within their natures from the start, like Torielās supposed to be nurturing and motherly and Female thatās how she conceives of herself and tries to behave but she still contradicts it in ways that feel very real. Itās something she tries to be.
Torielās allowed to contradict gender in lots of little ways that break from the motherly stock character - obviously she divorces Asgore and she harms you by being overly protective, of course, but she also, like, likes Inappropriate Jokes and she was fully on board to kill One human so long as it was the efficient choice and such. And Asgore is the Male King Protector but heās deeply soft and fails to live up to Masculine Bravery and, like, has Feminine Interests. Theyāre trying to fit these roles but they were not born perfectly moulded. Theyāre shoving themselves in that mould. Visibly
And the younger monsters in Undertale have way less gender their culture basically doesnāt have it. Famously Toby Fox originally made Alphys a guy but it felt wrong so he slapped eyelashes on her and made her a girl. And then sheās no longer the stock character of Anime Loser Guy in the same way! And Undyne similarly isnāt a Female Stock Character, she has a similar thing going on where if anything sheās a male stock character genderswapped. And thereās not tension between nature and nurture here in the same way, the younger monsters are isolated from human culture and havenāf been nurtured to be a gender.
And thereās a bunch of gay relationships never commented on as unusualwhich helps add to that sense. Thereās like the constrast between the premodern straight gendered monsters and the modern ones which have no feeling of having been pressued to be a gender.
Deltarune has a bit more genderā¦ and the monsters live on the surface and have Church and such. Which is cool. Itās a nice bit of like. World. I just realised that. Not sure if intentional. Noelle/Berdly is a wildly gendered dynamic, they feel like characters who have been presssured to be genders. Susie is a female version of a male stock character but the specific archetype is also, you know, being defiant, she feels like sheās been pressured to be a gender. They feel like theyāve interacted with it. They know about it. Alphys is a schoolteacher instead of a royal scientist now which changes her gender dynamic. Undyne is still there and doesnāt feel gendered
Hmmmm
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i wonder what time it is around the world
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Like. Itās that when Undertale Yellow pulls a stock character they keep it the same gender. It just feels like it buys in to that system. I guess shallower character writing tends toward Having More Gender In It because you pull from the audienceās preconceptions deploying a cardboard cutout more than you do writing a full person
your claims are probably having to do with the uty team being overall worse designers and writers than toby fox and temmie chang
Yea thatās what I said
could you quote it? i missed it.
Itās just interesting how more shallow writing generally got me to read it as more sexist. And sexist in a way that I donāt think Iādve noticed if it werenāt 1. in contrast to a game thatās good at being non sexist and 2. set in a world previously established in aforementioned game as not having a lot of gender in it, meaning the characters come across less as āgendered because societyā abd more āgendered because natureā