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& noted.
Assuming the reasoning doesn’t extend beyond what dia gave?
what
joke
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bold of you to assume that i have any towards you :)
I don’t mind this actually
Pointless to verify but I can confirm
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i agree with dia’s reasioning which is why i want d1 to be a thunderdome between the other two
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ah then it shouldn’t really matter! but i would shed at least one tear.
do you have any reads going at the moment
… why not beancat?
on a really-unrelated-but-unfortunately-timed note (particularly with the claim of the hood)
UNVOTE
beancat town for wanting to kill in the neighbourhood i can buy the paranoia
I am also giving Carbonated a bit of a pass since ive read them very wrong on a previous game
okay originally I was going to say I liked beancat less than I liked dia/carbon. but then I realized beancat has posted since, and now I kinda feel about the same on all of them:
beancat claiming a -EV role off the bat, which feels less mafia-like (easily subverted I know)
I liked dia outing the neighborhood if they are actually immune to anticlaim, I feel like it just gave more info to work off of early/clarifying why beancat and carbon were posting like that, a bit. I don’t know how I feel about them doing it without like, consulting the other two, but like whatever that’s just personal playstyle for me
carbon using a double vote d1 vs any other day seems less optimal for mafia, unless there were restrictions on the double vote, and she was incentivized to use it d1. but if she figured she’d be in a thunderdome, then I can see it. also it just hit me that carbon is in a neighborhood again
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I mean if you’re mafia you also generally want to kill in the neighborhood, right? both because it is a relatively standard inference to make that the neighborhood isn’t pure but it also is a good way to get targets that you don’t need to provide full reasoning for before either dying or pivoting to “oh the neighborhood must’ve been pure”. It would depend on your estimation of how the game goes but if you die then the other two people are soft-cleared
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In particular i’ve been put off by beancat’s posturing of “we need to resolve in dia/carbonated” because while yes mechanically true from beancat’s (claimed) perspective is not really how it works from my end & it comes by to me as trying to sneak by (even though I’m aware this is probably just my personal bias on town-perspective-claiming)
idk my impression would be mafia would conserve their ability to have a private chat with town to spew their agenda freely onto them
pushing for just a neighbourhood is towny beacuse its self destructive and you end up with a lot of suspicion on you after you flip someone you pushed
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was the idea of a mafia being in the neighborhood brought up in there at all or was it independent reasoning
In terms of other things: (meow’s fine, chomps’s fine & I kind of want to look elsewhere before probably stepping away)
i’m a little bit suspicious of leafia but also that’s like worse than throwing darts on the wall given my early-reading-her accuracy
this string of posts is kinda weird but whatever.
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to elaborate: the apathy in just taking beancat at face value is alarming but also if we’re assuming mafia in hood, the other one would have TMI & this seems like a decently likely fit for ‘somebody who knew there was a neighborhood’
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actually wait can we go back to this? a lot of what i didn’t like was the encouraging other people to claim being -EV (PoEs out stronger roles for mafia without much inherent benefit besides ‘might mess things up’ or ‘okay for town to kill’ (& in tandem with the request for votes, i was seeing it as like a poorly disguised neutral or weird town role where you get a bonus by wagons being on certain people)
but is it just the (theoretical) narrowing of claimspace to specifically -EV roles which then don’t let you survive off 'oh but i have a powerful important role? It does subsequently present opportunities to get out of weird mech (e.g. ‘yea sorry guys my role makes me look like i targeted the nk with a killing action. bummer.’) so it’s a bit of a give-and-take too.
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in response to beancat wanting the top wagons to be carbon/dia and i thought dia hadn’t said anything
dia in fact had not said anything. what was going through your mind in terms of beancat’s possible reasoning there
beancat is fine too. dia is fine too. I’m just constantly more wary of dia since they are notably like one of the best if not the best player on qbcord
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