April Showers The Third - MAFIA + NEUTRAL VICTORY

Host should have announced if we are in xylo. (according the OP)
Or is it messed up because of Smiley’s automated death?

well as far as I can tell because I was infected this visit is confirmed, I don’t know if that actually clears anything depends on if the factional is multitaskable or not sometimes it’s not, but if it isn’t then we can cross pandora off the list as “Potential night-killer person”

Wait. It should have accounted smiley into xylo calculations.

smiley’s automated death & maf anticlaim could fail or not be the cause of the kill, etc.

it is multitaskable i think

like hang+smiley+regular nk would just be F-7 but it’s decently likely someone dies to anticlaim

Oh…
I didn’t ever thought about that Canping could have died to anti-claim.
I thought anti-claim is just vanillization or something similar.

I dont’ see how anti-claim managed to kill willow and I don’t see why wolves kill willow when they were the counterwagon to frost yesterday

I killed Willow. She did not die to anti-claim.

Nevermind my logic then…

oh ok. then uh… i still advocate for hanging a mafia but that’s better

After Frost’s flips anticlaiming Canping was more likely, since mafia probably knew Canping is a golem (golem neighborhood was outed already basically), and Canping already claimed a roleblock ability.

But after Rhea came out with the kill on Willow, I doubt this happened.

i mean there’s a non-zero chance that mafia only has the anti-claim as kp that’d be funny

As for my suspicion on Kiiruma… well, first of all, per Chomps, Leafia, soweli, Kiiruma, and pandora cannot be in a wolf chat. If we take Chomps as telling the truth, and the game as a normal one with three wolves in a wolf chat, the group-wolves must lie in Jarek, Marluna, and carbonated. This is entirely possible, and I would like to potentially pursue the worlds in which this is true. Jarek and carbonated have both read pure on the surface to me, but I need to give them another look-through.

However, in the world where it is not true, I believe there is a high likelihood it is because Chomps is not telling the truth. If this is true, somebody in particular likely encouraged this fakeclaim, somebody who Chomps is clearing, and I believe it is most likely to be Kiiruma.

Canping “died”, while Willow and Creature were “killed”. This distinction is maintained in the death flavor and in the player list. This must be important.

I would personally be pretty miffed if after asking to be checked multiple times and being denied every time I was then suspected and killed off for not being checked :sob:

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hmm curious
anyhow ok shouldn’t we hang chomps first in such a world

uh could be that he bodyguarded someone

which would be highly annoying to me

My role card also uses the wording “attack the target”. Willow and Creature died both died to an “attack”, then. Canping seemingly was not “attacked”. He “died”.

Canping’s role says that he will “die” if he successfully bodyguards, not that he “is attacked” or will “be killed”, so it is possible this is what happened.

Was this only on Night Two, or does this contagion property apply every night?

In such a world, yes, Chomps should be the first to die. Whether we are in that world remains up for debate.