BOTC/BOTF Discussion Thread 2

i feel as though the entire utility of alchemist boffin is knowing which ability the demon has

you’re supposed to sandbag the demon with a neg utility ability

not learn who they are because they happened to take your bluff

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oh okay fair

Except the Demon doesn’t have to learn a bluff, and the Demon would know that the Boffin would be claiming that role if it wasn’t Alchemist so the Demon would never claim it.

it’s come to my mind that boffin is cracked in teensies

(something something many such characters)

the Demon necessarily learns a bluff from the Boffin, that’s what I meant. Also, no the Demon kinda has to claim some of the viable Boffin abilities to make use of them lol

I have found the following example provided.

Boffin causing Lleech-Pacifist to protect the host.

unless you mean to tell me the Demon should not claim they are the Virgin when someone decides to nominate them and gets executed :wowee:

please dont put it onscript with nightwatchman

The Alchemist Boffin giving the Demon the Virgin ability without learning about it is an Outsider, though.

Learning about it is a sandbag because then the Demon needs to play around it.

like i can see the 5% scenario that virgin would be alright. but for the one who has no ability other then confirmation

something something learn to doubt the confirmation roles

It’s also just more interesting as a Minion bluff if the character would learn about it?

“The Demon has an ability but I don’t know which one” just sorta sits there passively.

the wiki examples have nightwatchman, virgin, and banshee (with a scarlet woman). fuck you

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one of the how to play tips is basically just “relish in a confirmed virgin confirmed nightwatchman confirmed golem f3”

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I feel like the wiki does not do a good job showing where Boffin actually works in a script

I don’t want my Demon confirmed as a Virgin I want my Zombuul to kill with a Lycanthrope ability

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Alchemist Boffin could make the Demon poor man Jurgen Leitner if both learned which ability!

Instead it’s just worse Crime Fighter because which abilities are realistically so bad that the Demon would be critically affected by its existence? Zealot? Butler? Those really aren’t that bad.

i do kinda wish that it was on the minion that gained the ability but i understand why not

JURGEN LEITNER??

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