BotF I.I - Hand of Darkness - Good wins

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#5521

Okay, so there are supposedly only 2 Outsiders in the setup.
Balloonist and Fang Gu ensures that all Outsiders is in the setup.

Snitch = CRich
Lunatic = Intensify
Politician = Arctic
Puzzlemaster = Atlas

Wazza shot Eli today (D3), and Eli claims Lycanthrope
This confirms Leafia/BradLand and CRich as Good
Leafia/BradLand getting confirmed as Good implies that there is indeed only 1 Evil within Intensify/Shark/Eli
Within Shark/Intensify, we had assumed that Shark is the Demon, and executed him D1
Eli and Leafia/BradLand confirm each other as Good, and considering Lycanthrope killed 2 Good players at N2 and N3, then that means that the Demon couldn’t jump on those nights

In other words: We are not hunting an Outsider Fang Gu
We are hunting a Scarlet Woman Demon

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#5522

where does this logic even come from

#5523

Not quite

Pretty sure Wazza is gonna start mixing up different kill targets from now to throw us off.

#5524

its still possible one of the kills was a jump that just happened to line up with eli’s action

if it was leafia that means whysper is a minion (and im therefore puzzledrunk)
if it was crich that means eggyolk was a minion

#5525

This assumes that any one of those outsider claims isn’t lying about their claim, I haven’t seen any abnormal information from anyone yet that would indicate a puzzledrunk person and they haven’t made a guess either

In fact if one of the outsiders is fake and we are assuming it’s a fang gu game then wouldn’t that make the balloonist fake?

#5526

I would never

#5527

if one of the outsiders is fake it’s probably just an imp game

it’s not like we have any hard evidence for fang gu outside of shark claiming it

#5528

That would make one of the Outsiders evil, which in that case would be Crich likely

#5529

Shark lied about his minions and I know that for a fact because I am guaranteed to show up on any minion/demon list for the evils as a result of my ability, so I am still convinced he was the real demon

#5530

right

so why couldn’t he have lied about his role too

#5531

If it’s an Imp game

that makes Crich, Shark and Eli evil.

#5532

because if he really thought he was a lunatic he’d have no reason to lie about what kind of demon he thought he was and he wouldn’t have outed any of this if he thought he was the real demon, he probably realised he might be real and decided not to name-drop the real minions though

#5533

or crich was imp who jumped while being targeted by eli

so it’d make egg evil/puzzledrunk but not eli for sure

#5534

So we’re at a PoE of 4 then because I said Intensify was cleared a while ago

#5535

that’s one hell of a coincidence though then

#5536

this feels like questionable logic

but also claiming demon d1 is questionable logic regardless of lunatic existing or not

#5537

chances are low but never zero

#5538

right…

Did I ever mention that I’m not really your Choirboy

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#5539

The reason why I am saying “Demon” instead of “Fang Gu” is because I initially thought Intensify could still be legitimately an Imp. However, that would contradict the following claims:

  • Intensify claimed Imp whose Minions were Wazza/Arctic/Zone/Jarek
  • Arctic claimed Politician to both Intensify and myself

In theory, it is entirely possible that Intensify has fooled me into thinking that I was a Marionette while he has some random Minion in play, and then have Arctic claim Politician. However, there would be zero reason for Intensify and Arctic to coordinate their claims to fool me when he could’ve kept manipulating me. Ergo, it never makes sense for Intensify to be the Demon.

My head. The one that had Arctic as a possible Demon during D2.

I highly doubt it. They would have to have whispered at least once during D2 if they had planned this beforehand. I am too lazy to confirm that, but I simply choose to believe that Eli is legitimately the Lycanthrope.

#5540

Did I seriously have 3 people claim fucking Choirboy and all 3 were lies?!