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[May]

You’re misrepresenting this. I listed you as my top town on my readlist, which sucked and was bad, and then as soon as Atlas asked about why I townread you, it fell apart, and I said that I did absolutely see a world where you were wolf and it was conditional on SK wolf and Zorvo town.

@May

I wrote up a paragraph only to find that I don’t even super townread Leafia. Delightful. I still don’t particularly scumread her, but I think my instinct to townread is more… lack of fear, I suppose? It feels like she’s connected herself to the rest of the game in a way that means it’s easy to track down her alignment after a few flips, especially around O kazo, Zorvo, SK, etc. I have a bad habit of expressing “I can read this person and tell who they’d likely be aligned with, and I don’t want to vote them right now” as “I townread this person” (and “I can read this person and tell who they’d likely be aligned with, and I do want to vote them right now” as a scumread).

The meta was specifically that Leafia took such a back seat in the Morbtainado game as wolf, but in hindsight, that could just have been that Achro was the powerwolf of all time in that game and anyone would’ve taken a back seat to that, so it’s sort of falling apart as I try to explain it to myself.

If SK flips wolf and Zorvo flips town… yeah, I can definitely see Leafia being a wolf. Zorvo’s arguments were unconvincing and it looked like he’d be the vote for that day over SK - great scenario to fight against the town execution and for the wolf one while still not really believing. I’d go as far as to say Memes probably V in this world, given the way Leafia tried to connect them while Zorvo was solidly ahead. This world is so rich with connections and conclusions that I just can’t resist building it, despite the fact that I’m so aware it’s a redstring theory, which is part of why I keep pushing for the O kazo flip.

Of course, I’m about to fall asleep on my keyboard at the moment, so this could all be nonsense that I vehemently deny I ever believed in the morning. In fact, I do definitely know it’s at least partially nonsense right now, because it is not in the slightest an explanation of my stated townread on Leafia, but… I’ll take the risk and send the post now.

You are the one misrepresenting my argument.

[Leafia]

@May

You’re misrepresenting this. I listed you as my top town on my readlist, which sucked and was bad, and then as soon as Atlas asked about why I townread you, it fell apart, and I said that I did absolutely see a world where you were wolf and it was conditional on SK wolf and Zorvo town.

You say that I’m misinterpreting that and then admit that I’m not…

@May

You are the one misrepresenting my argument.

You literly admitted that I’m not. You had me as your top townread. You even admitted that. Don’t try to pretend that you didn’t. Just because it supposedly fell apart doesn’t change that.

[Leafia]

And no it didn’t suck. Your reads right now however suck. I know you’d be able to do better if you were a villager.

[Leafia]

I’m so sure that you’re a wolf that if you somehow flip town, then the town can execute me tomorrow and lose, becsuse my wim and care sbout nning will officially be gone.

[May]

@Leafia

No. It’s how agendafilled her push on me is. It’s not villagery at all. Yesterday, I was literally her top town and now she’s trying to make NAI at worst things about me look scummy and ignoring what makes me look villagery. It wasn’t until Zirvo pointed it out that I realized just how scummy May was being though.

The bolded text implies I had you as my top townread throughout D2. That’s not true. I had you at the top of my readlist on a weak metaread, and then Atlas asked about it that very same day and I decided I didn’t actually TR you. It’s not a sudden shift in opinion, as you have repeatedly implied, it’s dropping a weak, early read because I picked up on bad reactions to my Atlas train.

You are very specifically extremely focused on how my read on you shifted when that wasn’t a strong read to begin with, and I admitted as much.

@May

• Leafia - I’ve played one (1) game with [her] as mafia and am convinced I am the Metaread God, atop my high, shining Metaread Tower, and you can also gain my trust very easily and quickly by liking my posts. And her opinions are thorough and good. Sure, if she and I survive later into the game, I might reconsider it, but I doubt that’ll be the case given my track record.

Does this sound like an extremely convinced, set in stone, concrete read to you? I think you’re a wolf who thought you had me pocketed and are frustrated now that I’ve “turned on you”. I’ve stated many many many times that my early reads are immaterial and subject to change, I did not phrase this particular read in a way that implied I was confident in it in the slightest, and the read changed yesterday, before I was even close to the chopping block, and suddenly I’m here. Leafia is a maaaaaajor wolf

[Leafia]

@May

The bolded text implies I had you as my top townread throughout D2. That’s not true. I had you at the top of my readlist on a weak metaread, and then Atlas asked about it that very same day and I decided I didn’t actually TR you. It’s not a sudden shift in opinion, as you have repeatedly implied, it’s dropping a weak, early read because I picked up on bad reactions to my Atlas train.

A top town read isn’t just some weak read.

@May

You are very specifically extremely focused on how my read on you shifted when that wasn’t a strong read to begin with , and I admitted as much.

That doesn’t mean it never existed like you seem to want to make it seem and why do you seem to be trying to convince me that you’re a villager when you thinknI’m a wolf?

@May

Does this sound like an extremely convinced, set in stone, concrete read to you? I think you’re a wolf who thought you had me pocketed and are frustrated now that I’ve “turned on you”. I’ve stated many many many times that my early reads are immaterial and subject to change, I did not phrase this particular read in a way that implied I was confident in it in the slightest, and the read changed yesterday , before I was even close to the chopping block, and suddenly I’m here. Leafia is a maaaaaajor wolf

It sounds like a pretty strong read to me and how do you explain your survival if you’re town and I’m wolf after saying that?

Also, you seemed really confident to me and you only started suddenly pushing me today.

May, you’re probably a pretty powerful wolf and if I was a wolf, I’d be claiming PR. I always do as a wolf, yet I’m claiming VT. You’re ignoring everything that doesn’t fit your agenda if getting me misexed right now and even your proposed wolfteams with me in them make no sense whatsoever if you think about them for more than 5 seconds.

[sillykitty2366]

@Leafia

Partnering me with May at this point is just as dumb as partnering me with you. You’re doing the exact same thing you’re complaining that she’s doing at this point.

I hate how I can’t even say Ur wrong I have brain words bruh

[sillykitty2366]

This makes NO sense

[Leafia]

A major wolf would always claim PR in my situation too.

[sillykitty2366]

I already said the confusion was not me confusing the people but me confusing the subject…this is a dead end

[Leafia]

May is clearly pushing agenda here. How about joining us on her?

[sillykitty2366]

@May

Completely ignored Sillykitty, the person she was voting at the time, being revealed to be an alt Min, but did comment on the conversation explaining what everyone else was saying to Hail, as if ignoring information on a teammate she had already.

I am being paired with someone because they didn’t outright make a post reacting on me being Min I am so done

This HAS to be a joke inb4 leafia ends up being town and you made these reaches up all for nothing

[sillykitty2366]

Here I am, being tilted for another push/pairing on me I find dumb

Just read my last wolfgame I linked I am tired of spending every game I have defending myself

[sillykitty2366]

Anyway

We die like men

[Leafia]

Anyway, heading out for now, so talk to you more later.

[Jaiden]

alright im here now and eod
ask me SMALL questions pls
cant do big

[Atlas]

reads

[Atlas]

what do you think of the wagons

[May]

@Leafia

@May

The bolded text implies I had you as my top townread throughout D2. That’s not true. I had you at the top of my readlist on a weak metaread, and then Atlas asked about it that very same day and I decided I didn’t actually TR you. It’s not a sudden shift in opinion, as you have repeatedly implied, it’s dropping a weak, early read because I picked up on bad reactions to my Atlas train.

A top town read isn’t just some weak read.

It is if you don’t know shit about what’s going on, as I did on D2

[May]

Am I insane for pushing Leafia/SK