FoLermon 2.0 - Tutuu Becomes The Second FoLermon Champion!

[Ruby]

See idk about spreadsheets just think traits offer more strategies sometimes

Summary

Even if I had to not do mine here of atlas carry with chloe healing atlas

[Ash]

It’s complicated.
The simulation is effectively “agents will respond to immediate threats and enact upon immediate threats”, maximizing damage dealt and minimizing damage taken. From there, you add exceptions: Zug will take a free kill if he can, but he will defer the kill to a Scaler if they can take the kill first and if he can hit the other target for super-effective damage. Arete’s team uses the additional bench information as part of switch-calcs to determine what move to choice-lock into. FoLermon opposing Magnus will determine who Magnus can deal the most damage to and account for that in their calculations.
It’s a lot of manual overriding, and while I don’t think it can perfectly capture a game, it can do a strong enough job to know roughly how powerful an FoLermon is.

Magnus and Zug, for example, are FoLermon that I knew could be extremely strong, but they also had a bad dual typing and ranked lowest on the chart, so I felt comfortable letting them run that way. By the same token, Geyde is the most powerful FoLermon in the game but is less powerful in practice by being more luck-based. It’s about having a baseline and evaluating from there.

[tutuu]

did you program to account for the element of cutting 2 mons from your team after analyzing opponent’s team? or did you simulate 4 random mons vs 4 random mons? that could maybe be another thing

[May]

Yeah to be clear I was previously aware that this was not a straightforward random chance situation but, not knowing exactly how it worked, I didn’t want to make any assertions about it

[Ash]

Random mons.
Tried to change this midway to give May a Trait that could switch her typing, and the entire thing exploded.

[Atlas]

could carbonated have a trait that accounts for her smaller hitbox?

[Atlas]

can we nerf silviu’s damage until i’m above them in the tierlist again please

[tutuu]

oh i see yeah, i think that explains stuff too. the “generalists” pokemon get evaluated higher and the “specialists” get undervalued if randbats

[May]

Everybody is in on the short jokes now huh

[Atlas]

i mean it’s low hanging fruit

everyone is able to!

[carbonated]

what the fuck i send out an email for two minutes!!

[tutuu]

in folermon 3 id like every mon to have either a trait or a special ability, perhaps go up to 3 abilities in order to do so. and every mon to have different speed. these are my 2 main goals

[Ruby]

LETS GO SPEED CONTROL

[tutuu]

possibly allow more than 8 players to sign-up and play swiss instead of single elimination

[Atlas]

i wanted to say all of this but i didn’t want to put the work on you

[tutuu]

if i design it soon, like in a couple of days, would you guys play? or you want some break from folermon and you wanna play later down the line?

[Ruby]

Queue a weather team we gonna add chip hail to this :3

[Ruby]

I am good either I think?
Though would drop if 8 people that didn’t play here wanna to so I don’t hog a spot

[tutuu]

would you play folermon 3 in a week or so

• yes
• no

(idk the misc queue though, ofc id not cut in line)

[Atlas]

no other low priority games

it’s just botf and btm (high prior talking games) in there