Frieren: Beyond Journey's End Mafia - Day 2 [14/17]

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This reads as genuine frustration at a partner lmao. Think v!Willow would be more preoccupied with deciding “Is Hippo town or mafia” and “should we vote Hippo or not”, rather than “is w!Hippo currently playing well?”

Willow has a bunch of posts expressing heavy suspicion on Hippo and amidst them there’s this:

Im response to Eve defending Hippo. Tonally this reads as insincere to me, and jarring, amidst the sea of posts stabbing Hippo with a knife. It reads like budget soap opera acting, the “sigh”

I don’t actually think Willow has that bad of an EoD. I just don’t think she’s that towny, I think this looks like a straightforward bus, and I think v!Willow would express more villagery entitlement today if she’s town

If Willow is town, from her pov she dunked on a wolf, and yet shes being wagoned right after. That’d be a frustrating experience, and I think we would have seen some frustration, rather than apathy, if Willow town here

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will buy it (until I read Willow’s defense)

meow

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jason I also had a flash of realization that I’m doing to you what I did in grande idea with regards to fueling your tutuu paranoia in a fencesit-y way, and I wanted to let you know it’s completely unintentional this time. we must resist the d2 tutuu flashwagon urge until d3 at least

meow

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man I’m failing gummy’s sleep test noo good night now

meow

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willow’s very next post is unvoting hippo

this feels like believable progression to me? to me it feels like willow is getting convinced by eve’s arguments that hippo claiming mason is extremely bad and that he’d self-resolve from beancat claiming d2. I feel like w!willow could’ve just continued to sit on the wagon and dunk on hippo

i think willow has barely any posts from today, i think i would discount this

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i don’t usually do pairing reads but i think there are three obvious pairs to me

[eve, frog]
both made wolfsided votes at eod1, both have been pushing the narrative that the hippo wagon contains bussers

[tutuu, leafia]
both hardpushed hippo at a point in the game where there was a chance that tutuu would go over, both townread each other highly, both have been pushing for eve as someone for wolfsiding eod1 (well tutuu for other reasons but yes)

[willow, carbon]
this one is less obvious and is based on my pet read in 2150. if willow is wolf, she really wants her vote to matter so that hippo goes over instead of her wolf teammate carbon

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KISS principle (Keep It Simple, Stupid) - very good principle in game design, and in my opinion, in solving mafia gamea too

Apply KISS to this game:

Q: Is town currently winning?
A: Yes, we dunked on a wolf D1 who had a bad claim. Wolf team is disorganised and was unprepared

Q: Is the towncore infested with deep wolves?
A: No, we don’t have a lot of in-fighting. Towncore is pretty consensus, and majority of you are polarized. The PoE is not fighting back (which they do when they’re all town)

Q: Is it rational to feel paranoia right now?
A: No. It’s too early, and it would be purely an emotional reaction. It’s not logical. “The game can’t be this easy” (after a wolf flip) is purely an emotional paranoia, a form of pessimism. Doomerism, if you will

Q: Who should we kill?
A: The people who aren’t posting. Keep it simple

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The best town meta we have in this site, is hoping we have a correct town core or we get destroyed from within, we call them deep wolves who shown to be very towny. (After all, who doesn’t want to bus mafia members that help their objective to reach finals?)

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I did miss the part that Hippo claimed Mason and wasn’t there on EoD yes.

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Yep.

Looking this way, Soweli ending up voting Carbonated I would have considered him suspicious. The odds are 1-2 wolves are in Hippo wagon and while I didn’t end up voting Hippo, I do suspect 36501’s voting patterns is not natural to me. Also, I believe we talked about this before but I certainly said about the way I voted Hippo was simple: I didn’t like the way he posted. That’s not a sheep vote.

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I actually didn’t spend a minute worth remembering.

Ohh?

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Well, lets say you do. I am thinking you are town enough to be considered a threat to Mafia. You would also recall there are players out there who doesn’t think that way.

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Or antispewing

Occam’s Razor

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Ballsy towncore, I hope that bold strategy is working out for you.

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For me, Willow is in direct thunderdome with Leafia (#1403) from early voting. If not W/W then how do I prove which one is town? Willow’s worse off.

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Either bold to leave breadcrump for towncred if either of them got executed or misleading us into misexe. Snow, 36501, Melatonin and Tutuu. I pick up Snow because of wordplay.

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