im awake but also in toc rn lol
@jason.mrrown you were excited upon discovering you can read how the hydra heads read other people to give an overall sense of alignment at the start, I believe. how has that held up for you?
I think tutuu is just town. I had a better reason earlier, but I forgot it. maybe that it’d be easy for tutuu to push us lazily here. I’m not taking your deal though
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I know. I was devastated to learn you were not not posting in thread for 3 hours to write a wolfcase on me. I was really looking forward to it.
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I don’t think leafia is mafia bc I think she would have either stapled or bussed hippo harder. among the other things
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I think it’s possible hippo randed a wolf team that didn’t look that fun and decided he didn’t want to fight an uphill battle. but then I would expect more players to have been using towncred gained from bussing hippo if it was planned?
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I think the earlier gummy/frog thing was absolutely hilarious and incredibly surreal at how… oblivious frog was. like the fact he kept thinking gummy was lying feels too ridiculous to fake. frog is maybe a player who seems to like bits and would post as such & I find it bizarre he didn’t even check who died (nor did he see my post about dia nightkill weirdness (which no one cares about I guess)). but equally bizarre to play along like that if mafia.
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you know, the only interesting mafia dream I’ve had about this game was d1 when my dream self pointed out I could name the bookmarks I was using to track where to start backreading when gummy had been posting. pity it didn’t tell me where to find those bookmarks
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beatings frog vibes (good thing)
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i feel extremely confused bc you’ve just been posting mostly like your normal self and then gummy is kinda all over the place (understandable bc busy)
i thought the ragebaiting was a good idea but it’s just left me more confused bc i still don’t if gummy was just using that as an excuse as a free push and idk if your JASON MRROWN EXPLAIN YOURSELF was real or not, i’m somewhat paranoid that you might have faked the paranoia after learning that i was reaction testing you?
I think i’ve left you alone for most of d2 bc i wasn’t sure how to find you and i was more focused on evaluating other slots (willow and tutuu mostly rip) but now i come back, with you being even more wolfy in my eyes, and i’m still not sure how to find you outside of reading through your iso
wait that paranoia was totally real. there’s something else I could say that would make your paranoia worse though, so remind me post-game. my paranoia of you right now is less real, but you’ve been a black box today in terms of reads, and I know you’re capable of a better push on me than what you’ve been giving.
(I’ve been tossing around a would jason bus snow world, and I feel like you wouldn’t do that to a new player + maf rber is strong!)
mmmm wolfy because of the flashwagon? I feel like you have to agree that gummy hardshielding a new player isn’t out of character for her; but obviously the wolf flip reflects badly. have my posts pinged you otherwise?
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Bro
I just realized none of my hardshkelds ever work
Every time i shield someone they die
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this time around that was good
yeah tbf im being a little lazy but i don’t think i need to push you that hard? you’re in the poe and the pressure from being boxed in is pressure enough atm
not to worry i’ll look through your iso tmw
you sound very weird today. a lot of posts that tonally sound unlike what i expect from meow
ironic given this was how I felt about you d1. I’m happy to have played w you this game, glad I didn’t tunnel you to death. don’t read into this sorry I know it’s hard I’m tired of the metagaming paranoia
what does compulsively bus mean? like push partner the moment it looks bad for them? I ~do that, I think gummy is better at powerwolfing. overall I do agree with Jason’s later assessment
then I would have defended snow harder when they were initially brought up as a wagon option instead of essentially shrugging
I kinda think jason is still town, but remains to be seen how he cases me. I mean if jason is mafia, I’ve never seen him ever get close to posting this good, you played w him in katseye he like never played the active town lead role. 2 hr maf, don’t consider killing jason until like d5 or something (um pending jason’s wolfcase on me for which I’ll provide a towncase if satisfactory)
player wise, probably true. gamewise, I don’t know, do you think a me/gummy hydra really lets our teammates flounder like that for us to get like 0.5 towncred points, maybe we got too intimidated by tutuu
like katseye, it’s got to be a different combination. somehow.
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sure, I’m selfish and want to soothe my own paranoia. I want to see if your wolfcase on me is better than it was in katseye. I don’t want to be an easy push for you specifically maybe bc I’m petty or bc I’m still a little miffed over last time maybe, haven’t thought too much about it
so either I’m not sounding resigned enough to death or trying to hard to survive or perhaps the dissonance of both?
more realistically you’re talking about when I got annoyed over people pushing gummy specifically & that’s bc I think gummy is entirely aware of what she did, and there’s no need to exacerbate it & I have the benefit of knowing that she’s town to defend her with. I’m also more comfortable defending her than myself, which I think is nai for me. I’ve already explained my (perhaps unwarranted given how much time you’ve already spent metadiving other players) frustration regarding you (but maybe I feel entitled to similar treatment?)
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frost is confusing me because he’s towny because he’s been so uninvolved in the wagons & he has a good hippo vote near the start I think
I feel weird that he’s still pushing the same vote reads d3 although admittedly not really resolved them if he thinks there’s a wolf in the lot
I agreed w a tutuu? post about frost somewhere. I guess I’m worried about clearing too easily off him having like 2 reads total this game (Jason/me t/t) and 1 wolf in the wagons (likely being 36501??).
I kinda don’t see his overall play this game as particularly wolfy or agendaed, but no one in the poe really has had one, I think. but frost has been giving confident statements and stuff, they’re just so disjoint from the main convo half the time. I want to skim through his wolf game if I get a chance I suppose & I never actually did the iso, surely I’ll get to it eventually
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kiiruma
sorta believe 36501 if the vanilla slip was real then probably town
vt is like one of the only roles that I could see justifying kiiruma’s play this game & I was afraid to point it out too explicitly bc I didn’t want to call his bluff. but I was also scumreading him bc I was paranoid he was going to claim “breadcrumbing” a strong pr role as mafia and get towncred for doing it so blatantly, which I didn’t think kiiruma would do as a townie. I think this entire vt but baiting pr play could be easily faked too, but I’m also swayed by 36501’s identification of the vanilla slip as real and unintentional.
I saw earlier tutuu had some post that said he didn’t think a vt claim would cut it for kiiruma, which I vaguely disagree with, but shrug I think that line of thought is good since I was also somewhat in that area.
would like kiiruma to give some more social reads and vote someone today though…last game he voted me pretty easily d1, and it’s now d3 w plenty of things to make townreads at least off of
anyway I think I just cleared the game, so something is wrong
meow
oh beancat shrug the towniest thing is apparently snow trying to frame them. it’s hard to judge snow’s mech experience and whether they’d expect such a claim to be contested by others off the bat. (which is to say, I’m not as convinced of town beancat as dia. eh well hippo vote on them is actually good I think). vt claim makes a lot of sense for beancat’s activity levels, she was more active last game but had an actual ability? I’m never going to be able to read chomps socially. probably just doomed
meow
god I cannot pull an all-nighter, I’m not even doing a proper backread. legitimately don’t think I can fall asleep though rip
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(also bc there’s a chance you do realize I’m town & that’d be cool too if you say it in a non-pockety way. but no pressure, I’m happy w a wolfcase too)
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dia / 36501? / leafia / eve
soweli / jason? / tutuu
frog
beancat / frost / kiiruma?
willow?
? = possibly minus a tier
am I missing someone
very ehhhhh on kiiruma/willow as a solve though esp given how mech has worked out? so like I don’t know frost?? I think hippo would be more interested in wolfing if frost was his partner though? willow/chomps is bad too though. I don’t know who I’m misclearing, especially if it’s not willow
don’t think I’ll be able to provide a solve off what we know right now. sorry. will see what the dreams tell me
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