Frieren: Beyond Journey's End Mafia - Day 4 [11/17]

[Kiiruma]

@melatonin

would like kiiruma to give some more social reads and vote someone today though…last game he voted me pretty easily d1, and it’s now d3 w plenty of things to make townreads at least off of

But the condition for my fake PR character is I can’t vote anyone. And by that I mean I always seem to kinda be here, then mean to be here later on in the day, then forget to be here and then just tune back in to see if I was right/wrong

In all honesty one of the things I’m trying to think about most is who would choose to rolecop me, to enable Snow to confidently claim the jailkeep on me without me being able to retort it? Or, was it just a ploy to try and get me to claim things to do with my action / lackthereof?

It feels like it should’ve been an informed decision since it specifically targeted me and I think my D1 behaviour would fully warrant a mafia rolecop to make sure I’m not actually doing anything strong since I’d tried to purposefully push against Leafia’s very happy go luck VT thing to do my moreso serious and for-realsies PR ‘slip’.

I think it very lightly clears Tutuu (Like 40% W!Tutuu would check me, 60% not), since I think out of those with experience with me, Tutuu would be one of the more likely to see the attempt at a ruse. But not like super confident on that clear.

[AngryFrog]

Oh no, melatonin cant be afflicted with insomnia

[melatonin]

@melatonin

will see what the dreams tell me

tutuu offered to give me pasta sauce & made all the VTs claim in a beatings game we were playing in dream where there were like 2 town PRs and rest vanilla this means nothing

meow

[AngryFrog]

Frosty and snow, man

[AngryFrog]

@melatonin

I thought it was weird he was online and chose not to vote btwn the tied wagons eod2 though, given snow makes sense as his preferred “busser” vote over “paranoia gamestate vote” tutuu.

I was snowed

[AngryFrog]

Ill see myself out

[tutuu]

NYO EATING MY PASTA SAUCE BAD MEOW

[melatonin]

you kept offering!! (dream transitioned into mafia before I actually tried it)

meow

[melatonin]

@AngryFrog …you are in a neighborhood with tutuu. right?

meow

[Frostwolf103]

Cease heretic.

[diafiasco]

The minecraft youtuber dream transitioned? wow good for her

[Serie]

D3 Voutecount

melatonin (2): Leafia, diafiasco
Kiiruma (2): tutuu, 36501
tutuu (1): Chomps
AngryFrog (1): soweli
Chomps (1): AngryFrog

Not Voting (6): ElizaThePsycho, melatonin, Frostwolf103, Kiiruma, jason.mrrown, Eve

[melatonin]

hi dia

meow

[Frostwolf103]

@melatonin

frost is confusing me because he’s towny because he’s been so uninvolved in the wagons

I am indirectly involved with Snow here. Not by vote, but definitely got a hand in hasten his demise.

[melatonin]

what did you do again? (sorry I don’t remember). I remember a comment about maf jailor being bastard

meow

[melatonin]

@Kiiruma

then just tune back in to see if I was right/wrong

what have you been right or wrong about so far this game?

meow

[melatonin]

jason I gave my reasoning for why I thought you swapped to tutuu, did you ever explain it yourself?

meow

[Frostwolf103]

I double verify what Snow has done

@Frostwolf103

@snow

I visited Kiiruma

No, you didnt? So what does that make Tutuu?

@snow

I did. What did tutuu say?

@Frostwolf103

So you’re saying your visit is successful?

@snow

Yes

@melatonin

also im ngl this looks kinda bad for snow but w/e

snow (3): soweli, 36501, jason.mrrown

@tutuu

If snow is town then kiiruma isn’t ascetic

@melatonin

has kii claimed ascetic?

i think snow is town or at the very least being honest about her role

@tutuu

Which means i was RBed by mafia unless second town RBer exists which is imbalanced

Unless redirector is considered vanilla let me check. It shouldnt thats too high powered role

@Frostwolf103

So Snow and your actions just contradict each other.

@Frostwolf103

@snow

I’m indeed jailkeeper, is there any difference between the two?

The Jailor has rolestop and can also kill.

@snow

I can’t kill

@Frostwolf103

Yeah, no I don’t think any power class here can multitask.

@Frostwolf103

@melatonin

wait so you just protected a lowposter?

@snow Did you?

@snow

The intention was to rb a lowposter

@Frostwolf103

Maybe as Jason pointed out, the threat state is showing you being fine as a wagon give people paranoia and get more discouraged to execute you.

Also no, I remember enjoy playing with you, as well Hippo.

I abandoned D1 tunnel on 36501/Willow (I am waiting for astounding ‘told you so’ post-game) and moved on to spiritually suspect Snow

@diafiasco

VOTE: snow

anyone who stacks on now receives ZERO towncred from me

@diafiasco

i would like to test jason and soweli’s judgement although i think both are probably actually town because if they were wolf and being townread this hard they wouldn’t need to blow hours of their day backreading tutuu’s other games and making spreadsheets

@snow

Could you explain your confidence on me?

@snow

How is my claim 1) and 2)?

Otherwise tell why I shouldn’t think this is a mafia-supported wagon?

@Frostwolf103

I think Dia is insisting you to work your gears.

@snow

I think fair of me to question her in this situation

@Frostwolf103

Pretty much.

@AngryFrog

Yeah frosty is straight up a wolf; the question IMO is whether or not they are scum.

@Frostwolf103

Hmm?

@Frostwolf103

So am I also scummy for double-verifying what Snow claimed?

[diafiasco]

I think for today’s vote candidates:

• I’m not voting any of the six towniest players we have mostly agreed upon

• I am less inclined to vote Frost as he did not visit anyone on N1. 36501’s suspicion of Frost was well-telegraphed, and w!Frost could have easily deduced that she was tracker due to reporting a real result and moved to kill her in order to create a positive-EV flip.

• I am less inclined to vote Frog due to his EOD2. I think Tutuu was very clear on his intent to come back and vote Snow, so the fact that the vote was likely to end up tied once he self-pressed should not have come as a surprise to wolves. He seemed very genuinely too busy working on a solve to look at the game clock.

• Kiiruma moves up maybe one spot for me due to the VT narrative lining up and the plausibility of him baiting a rolecop. The story lines up here.

• I think it makes more sense to flip someone else (e.g. Willow) to learn about Jason than the inverse, so I don’t really want to vote him today

[diafiasco]

This leaves me with a POE of [Melatonin, Willow, Chomps, Kiiruma] — three of these are claimed VTs, one of these (Willow) is unknown