Frieren: Beyond Journey's End Mafia - Night 1 [16/17]

i went back and read soweli’s long post again to read the section on carbonated and it’s good. i’m okay with top towning soweli based on it. will not be voting carbonated but still suspicious there.

Willow / Leafia

I am giving Willow a first glance of wolflean on the RVS period, the performative tone about the vote while not exactly engaging with Jason.

I do disagree with 36501 here about Willow’s content earlier on.

Honestly I don’t see Tutuu/36501/Willow together, I do question that both Tutuu and 36501 are not seeing the performative tone and get easily impressed.

Leafia is voting Willow well before that reply. Moving to Leafia now (since interesting stuff afterwards are nowhere to be found)

Yes and going to say again, it is a wolflean take early on.

@Leafia Do you still suspect Willow in some capacity? (I will also look into Eve/36501 in the next part)
Suffice to say, I am going to say Willow is taking the worse side from T/W, GG for deepwolf if you are Leafia.

Eve/36501

No follow up what led to the vote, just like what’s happening to me.

This eventually break the voting pattern (ignoring Beancat for moment here) when voting Hippo, this makes me think that’s not 36501’s real readlist.

#944 is not helpful especially when you follow the voting pattern from earlier, you got like

Alot of unsure, 36501 sure find Jason more interested.

Hippopablompoyeetus (5): catbae, Frostwolf103, soweli, AngryFrog, tutuu
Eve (2): Hippopablompoyeetus, 36501

The voting pattern doesn’t stop to amaze me from the lack of coordinated reading

For all the null, if not wolflean…looking back at this, this does hold a interesting motive for having alternative wagon instead of Hippo, not trying to convince the majority while I am writing this. It’s not distancing with Hippo, not W/W in that case. But this is about between 36501 and Eve. The play from 36501 is not impressive as townread, the voting pattern is all over the place to find use in this game. 36501 also made it clear that Eve isn’t particular a wolfread to that, only in condition as counterwagon in contrast to Hippo.

@36501 What is your case with Eve here exactly?

Ah I did not even consider that. They replaced into a scum slot recently against me on MU where their team was already PoE’d and town could elect someone to become vig every night. I’m not sure what about their play implied scum burnout but I can see at least part of where that could have come from.

talk to me about this? willow posted only a little between when you had that read and now but none of it was super alignment indicative IMO

@Eve Besides being tunneled from tutuu and 36501, do you have good memory who you believe is town and mafia?

well, at the start of this game tutuu was multitabling with an anon mash on MU, they were mafia and won there but were lurking heavily, which kind of explained inactivity here but that game ended and the passion for solving is not there IMO

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I started off townreading willow

Then jason and meow told me willow posted the same in her last scum game. I checked and i rescinded my townread. Then i gth townread her. It wasnt based off new content, it was based off old. Gun to head is inherently inexplicable

ok

I just wrote a book on my reads and my passion isnt here? Up to what standard are you holding me? I mean, im not as aggressive as i was in, say, champs semis, but games on FoL are more gentle than games on MU. It is inadequate to invoke the MU aggression on FoL. What aspect of passion do u perceive me to be lacking here?

I rather find the engagement between Willow and Jason, a bit performative.

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You asked if my joke read that using a font = mafia was serious lol

I didnt particularly townread eves posting from when i was in thread but i thought it would be obvious to most people that font usage as a reason is nai hence my ellipsis

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mmm

i acknowledge you’ve written things but haven’t necessarily felt that belief in your reads. when I was scum against you you were a pain in the ass and i was telling scumchat we needed to kill you right away (although i gave you a day of mercy in fortress of lunacy even though we could have dayvigged you day 1). here you feel like you just exist to me? you’ve given scumreads but i don’t feel conviction behind them. i also…am just not really seeing what you are, jason reads like an innocent child to me and your scumread on him feels pretty tenuous and based on one thing that looks weird but doesn’t have a ton of evidence behind it

i just, iunno, having a hard time seeing you as town

(it feels a bit like you are overly confident on hippo flipping mafia and basing too much of your read on me on that, but i think quibbling over that is not super likely to be productive

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I literally was lock mafiad last game by most people (not just leafia) and was essentially mis-eliminedated losing game (people had team as exactly me/chomps, chomps was voted out 4-3 so tech not me being m’led but same difference).

People seem to have amnesia at the start of every game of how often i get suspected as town. I obv town as town end-game because my reads are all backreasing with flipped wolves and wagonomics which i am very good at (also why i sucked last game because format prevented both those things)

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I just wait a few days and do thread reads tbh. Ngl I almost always townread them lol i dont think ive actually caught them (they do seem to always rand though i cant remember when they were mafia).

I dont want to hang them this game

They pretty much also never push me as mafia cuz i usually get pocketed by them so light town this game

Lmao that’s how you know that both of us are town because I made a good take you didnt understand and you described the experience as “this how an alien would gain towncred with tmi” that’s p good I never got that one before.

I will offer some suggestion on where you went wrong. Your interpretation of my intent is completely correct all the way through “hey thread first I’m gonna try to sort the hydra” “k the hydra is town that’s good enough for me now bye.” Like I paraphrased and in your own post you described it as “…time to close up shop” and that is exactly correct and words I may have used myself. The problem is where you continue from there because you projected onto me the idea that I somehow cared about getting towncred and that was why I wrote those posts. Then instead of going
“Wait these posts don’t make sense to be posted for town cred by someone with TMI maybe this is a player who does not care how they are percieved and is focused on solving at the expense of everything else…” you went
“These posts don’t make any sense to be posted for town cred by someone with TMI so it must be scum who is armed with TMI trying to get town cred in a way that doesn’t make sense” impressively skiing into the bad logic red flags like circular reasoning which you were supposed to be skiing around.

hey guys whatd i miss

Ok it has come to my attention i am still top wagon so i am going to vanity search my name and respond instead of reading up

My tl;dr is that I see i can be mafia (and actially from thread state theres minor upside in me flipping) but a lot of individual accusations are weak and seem in bad faith and i do not want to be hung today

Id rather be vigged to save me from humiliation

I see.