Because I’m tired and only have been defending instead of doing things like that.
This is weird to me. Didn’t know what the invention was less than 10 posts before asking if my bomb was like Kiiruma’s invention. Seems a bit like TMI? Idk
This also feels weird to me.
did kinda ignore d3 while I was skimming mainly bc I was gone almost all of that day and also still a bit upset that u guys hammered
Also as more and more time goes on, I think Wind’s just scumreading me more.
And this is making me panic.
As YBW’s being cleared more from the Uni interactions.
And Gorta’s been kinda off Wind’s suspect list for other reasons.
I don’t know what to do and this is actually horrible.
I can’t let myself die like this, I won’t go down and let this be a loss.
I don’t exactly know if it’s TMI because for it to be TMI there would have to be a way for wolves to know what your thing is? Unless they investigated you or something.
Yeah, I mean, we confirmed that we had an item (The one I gave to Wind) in thread but idk why Uni would assume that it’s the same there.
Uni didnt know about ur item roughly 10 posts ago, then started asking what I thought were weird questions about it and the posts made it seem like they already knew about the item
Also kiiruma, what articles did you write every night? (gimmie a brief summary of each one)
N1, I drive to Wind’s and give them an invention. I mention I’m the Ultimate Inventor (Hoping that it’ll make targeting of me by scum maybe a bit harder since Wind would know I’m an inventor and be able to protect me jic scum use an action to get articles or something)
N2, I knew I wouldn’t be activated but my article was talking about further escapes when inventing. That I got oil on my hands and my clothes would be dishevelled. I was hoping if someone used their action to activate me that it’d basically reveal that I looked ‘off’ due to the work that I was doing.
N3 I went for trying to make another invention and use it to basically parity cop and do other investigative things. I was going to try and have it so it targets Wind/Universal since at the time I was worried due to what Shark did and I was nervous about Leetic but not enough to push away how Universal was feeling. (Which is why D4 I made sure to mention way to make sure Uni would be killed and tried to hint not to directly attack them, which I think Wind picked up on)
N4 I did bombs at Uni’s thinking that it’d prevent any kill redirection.
*escapades not escapes
To elaborate on N1, it’s supposed to do positive things to myself and Wind.
And although I can only speculate on what the loverizer would’ve done now, I think it might’ve at least linked 1 wolf(?)
look how far that read got me
leetic, cloned, eggyolk
town-town-town
i should probably never make that read again
there was actually one very glaring sign that cloned was probably town but i was ignoring it because i thought it was an unstable reason with no real basis to it, oh well
so Uni sounds like he doesn’t like when he has negative attention on him but because he’s reactive he just OMGUSes
The thing with my earlier gigantic wallpost is that all the Uni quotes were from D3
Uni was not in antispew at least at the beginning of that day, probably not until Dum started suspecting him (because Dum was the one holding a gun)
ah, here was the setup
shade leetic and me for the same thing, townread clonedcheese and then blame me for it because i was cloned’s strongest scumread
Post #981 is Uni’s first interaction with Gorta
Gorta… doesn’t really comply with what Uni asks
off the top of my head I’d say he would actually come back with some form of reads if he were a wolf - especially with Uni - rather than just brushing off the question like “lol no”
this is Uni shading YBW’s slot indirectly by shading leetic for not pushing it
this is very, very likely a wolf complaining they aren’t getting cleared off the exact same thing a townie gets cleared for and they’re mad about it

I am not doing this to read VooDooSH’s slot. I also am still a bit confused with game mechanics and how activation works (like how clearing someone cards ends up making them evil?) so I won’t take that as a scumtell. I am doing this to highlight the double standard between leetic pushing me and pushing other inactive slots

Also in general VooDooSh’s slot just doesn’t have much information, and a major factor that went into leetic pushing me was for more information on my thoughts.
Uni insists to me he’s not trying to read YBW’s slot (but he definitely is shading it)

Also what are your most likely mafia reads? Despite posting quite a bit your presence in thread is a bit weird
Post #1013, this is Uni’s first interaction with Kiiruma
it’s actually a very weird post for being their first interaction in the thread
I scrolled all the way back up to the top of Uni’s ISO (this is his 35th post) and there is literally NO interaction with Kiiruma before this
I assume the timing is NAI and just because they were basically never in the thread at the same time, but this post does not imply that they haven’t talked before
like look at the tone of it
it just looks like Uni is casually asking Kiiruma for his reads and criticizing his thread presence but not going “hi, I haven’t talked to you before, what’s up?”
it’s… very weird and very partnery ngl

I’m a he/him!
And I am reading them because their thoughts are super damaging to town.
They state how they are confident mafia has already posted in the thread.
Then they go after inactives and vote them.
They stick their vote to one slot and despite there being no movement to get them out they keep it on that slot- effectively throwing their vote away for D1 to look active.
D2 comes around they still push one slot for inactivity despite there being another slot as inactive
And then they shade another top-poster for not voting an inactive even when they didn’t arm a movement for it.
D2 is then spent speculating game mechanics or piggy-backing off others reads and saying “we must pressure inactives”
I have seen this playstyle before with mafias trying to force town to hyper-focus on one factor which is why I am so weary of it.
i’m starting to scroll really fast to make sure i finish this in time, it isnt a long iso but i’m looking for specific things
this post is in reply to YBW and looks like how a wolf talks to town and not to another wolf off the top of my head
it could also sound like town talking to someone they think is town but we know uni is a wolf and my point is, it doesn’t sound like how anyone talks to someone they think or know is a wolf

In my opinion Cloned is a town. They have had solid thought progression and their reads make sense. The only thing I dislike is how they’ve appeared to be selective in the past about voting patterns and agendas seeing as how they pushed some players for reasons but ignored other players even if they did the same thing he hated.
I am willing to let that slide just because of how well their thought process is like.
Another thing I would say is that some of their reads I would disagree with, and I welcome discussing it further with him if he wishes to.
(Reads on Sharklifter)
gonna be completely honest this post had too many quotes and i actually never read it except like the first two quotes and then i scrolled past, saw uni calling cloned town and scrolled past that too
maybe shouldve realized that’s how wolves dismiss a townie they want out of the way by tmi’ing and then killing them but hindsight 20/20 i guess

On a serios note: from what I’ve read thus far I sincerely advise for people to go for those in this pool
Leetic
EggYolkI may put Wind in there as well just because of what I’ve read from Clonedcheese and do admit some of their reasoning for D1 was a bit weird at best and malevolent at worst.
I also do ask for people not to go after the following
Me
Cloned
EliI am fairly confident that due to the low energy present at EoD1 that Eli and Leafia were T/T. I would also say to look into those who threw their votes away at EoD1 to slots that had no possibility of being voted out.
keeps his wolf partners completely out of the list on either side, nice

To be honest I also find you to just be either inexperienced or just really unnaturally defensive around Leetic
that doesn’t sound like uni talking to a wolf either

Reads:
Town:
Me
Eli
Gorta
Null
YWB
Dum
Sharklifter
Wind
Mafia:
Leetic
gorta town after saying literally nothing about him and interacting with him exactly once
kiiruma not at all in this list for whatever fucking reason
ybw in the nullzone so uni can flipflop on him later, i guess, good to know
let me think about this for a second
the placement of the gorta read is really weird and the lack of kiiruma at all in this list is even weirder
GTH if i were looking at this list alone i’d bomb gorta and not kiiruma

Universal what do you think about kiiruma and leetic being in the shadow realm, dum having a gun, and me being a suicide bomber?

GTH on Gorta:
This is based off my previous games with them but I am sure they are town, or at the very least town-leaning. Their gameplay is natural in my eyes to how they would act as town and they seem for the most part trying to work through the game. Its like a more chill version of clonedcheese if that makes sense
there’s the gorta read
yeah ok i don’t like it, wtf

I still don’t understand some of the mechanics of this game. Like how you could be sent into the shadow realm, people having a gun, or there even being bombs in the game. I thought the game would just be an almost-vanilla like structure with articles put in the mix for fun story telling

Like I thought this meant that mafia activating you would be a faction kill.
Scenario worked in my head like this:
Mafia activates one of their own
Said mafia member kills a town slot
Article gets posted
End of storySo I am… confused?
cool so no derp clears are valid then

I just explained why I believe Gorta is town in a post above. If you want I can do an entire ISO but I don’t really want to for the next reason:
The reason why I put you and YWB in neut and not mafia is because I haven’t done an ISO or read your posts yet. Even then I am leaning in putting you as mafia because despite posting 3x I have your presence as barely noticeable, at least early on which can just simply be due to you ramping up posts now.
doesn’t want to go over why their near-top townread whom they’ve never talked about before is at the top
now that i think about it it just sounds like tmi
but what wolf forgets their partner
that is blatant hedging on ybw though as far as i can tell

I also forgot to put in Kiiruma in this, Kiiruma would be null. Sorry for that mistake
finally realizes kiiruma is not in the readlist
so now he goes into that readlist i already quoted from him before where he builds teams consisting of me, leetic, ybw and sharklifter and ignores everyone else
notable because he had ybw at a null but also decided he’d put kiiruma at a null after forgetting to put him in the list, interacting with him once, and then decides ybw is scummier despite them both being null
i actually think uni ranked his “townreads” according to consensus and momentum and added his “scumreads” (or at least leetic) based on leetic’s productivity and push on him, and then decided to put in his scum buddies afterwards and try to place them in different locations so they wouldn’t be too close together, but forgot to put kiiruma in somewhere because he didn’t know what read to make up on him
anyone else here, do you have thoughts?
im not finished yet, i’m like halfway through
a few observations, shark is jokingly called a wolf by kii and uni never mentions kii ever
I forgot about that whole forgetting kiiruma off the read list and that makes me sus kii even more tbh

I’ve done it, I ISOed Wind and I really don’t think wind is as towny as I thought earlier

What makes you say that? Like what post do you think rubs you the wrong way?

it’s several factors to be honest

I know you don’t really like to do massive wallposts or ISOs which is why I just wanted one example

maybe it’s the derp clearing, I don’t quite know, it’s partly gut

I want your advice on this, would you rather vote a slot out that has a high chance to flip scum and reveals information on all slots or vote out a slot that hasn’t contributed much to town development or establishing scumcores/towncores?
ok this is NOT partnered
one last thing i want to point out, i’m almost done

it depends

how much of a scumread do you have on said person?

sure you can get info, but if you have a big scum read screw information a dead wolf is a dead wolf

Oh no both have a high chance of flipping scum.

ok, which one is more likely to flip scum in YOUR opinion?

my answer is vote the stronger scum read

I’m gonna say Wind just because Shark hasn’t been able to even come out to defend themselves. Its just voting a semi-inactive slot at this point.

So Gorta what is your opinion

I’m willing to vote Wind. /vote Wind @Host-Account-3
and blames gorta by voting me on gorta’s advice to “vote the stronger scumread” which is completely NAI but valid advice
that is NOT partnered, it’s setting up for what uni thinks will be an ML on me that can go straight into gorta the next day
…
and yes we know uni was lurking the next day as outed scum and avoiding spew but the last thing i have to say is:
that post where i said it was uni’s first interaction with kiiruma was his ONLY interaction with kiiruma in the entire game
and he never came back to say anything else about it
he interacted with gorta only to “ask advice” on whether to vote shark or me
the last wolf is Kiiruma, gg guys
My 1 main reaction to this after reading through is ‘Fuck’ because I know how horrendous this looks for me and I have a lot I need to defend and explain and not much time to do it
i’m blowing you up
Wind fucking don’t
I need to defend myself here, please, I know it’s wrong and I need to do something.
I can’t let this lot sit on my shoulders
This isn’t funny, it’s not a joke.
We’re on a damn time crunch and I’m not good with pressure anyway.
Yet alone when I’ve been working hard to defend myself all day and now with like 1 hour to go, I have a damn mountain to climb.
@WindwardAway please seriously don’t blow me up. Can you split you susses on me into sections and I can try to defend against them. I don’t want to lose us the game like this due to a fucking wolf interacting with me in one way

Since u just read through it, did Uni ever have an interaction with Kiiruma?

Uni didnt know about ur item roughly 10 posts ago, then started asking what I thought were weird questions about it and the posts made it seem like they already knew about the item

a few observations, shark is jokingly called a wolf by kii and uni never mentions kii ever

I forgot about that whole forgetting kiiruma off the read list and that makes me sus kii even more tbh
so either we’re actually all on the same page or two of us are the fourth and fifth wolf
that’s … probably a good sign?
maybe not, considering this site’s reputation but this is a very obvious thing now that all three of us have pointed out
I don’t care what I have to do, just let me fight and do what I can.
This is a fucking nightmare for me, why do I need to be in a final few.