There was a big discussion about this earlier today lol
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ugh i dont wanna have to read back tho
Look, you subbed in to a low posting slot who didnāt even feel too amazing in their posts.
Please just have a look for yourself 
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Summary:
Dum claimed to have vigged Eli but thought they must not have been activated
Eli, who is very obviously alive, said maybe he didnāt die because Dum was activated but the revolutionary protected him with the passive ability
Discussion continued and Eli also outed that his rolecard got wiped (we arenāt sure if heās vanillized but I think weāre assuming so)
Dum put the pieces together and realized they were the one who wiped Eliās card
Not 100% sure about whether the vig action went with it but supposedly both wiping and killing were in the article
I also think so as well, unless the wolves were that inactive towards EoD that they didnāt bother to vote for their teammate and just got lucky on the roll I find it that Eli probably is town.
Anyway if you read the discussion toward start of D2 (there arenāt many posts today) youāll see the way Eli and Dum went about discussing it
Personally I donāt think that was a w/w discussion and it seemed like both of them were figuring things out
There are other individual reasons I have for TRing them based on their conclusions and how they interacted
Why would Dum vig Eli who is more of a WiFoM in my eyes considering how the EoD vote went?
Idk how much experience Dum has with FM but it sounded to me like a whole bunch of players thought they should kill the counterwagon when they talked at day start today
So I guess it was a common sentiment
Personally I was looking hard at Wazza overnight but that was a flop
nevermind seeing this makes more sense, I think this means that its very possible that the article was misinterpreted instead of Eli being protected from revolutionary. Itās NAI for eli bc its someone elses action but means that he isnāt mech cleared from revolutionary imo
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Mech-wise yes
But I have a reason for thinking Eli is probably town as well, socially
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My plan for tonight is to just write owl house fanfiction and see how geyde interprets it, unless I feel like actually doing something
Thatās fine, I was mainly talking mech wise there since Dum said eli was mech cleared and I didnāt really see why
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Also can we begin to actually expand our reads? Something else that is a bit off-putting is how limited our vision looks to be. Looking at the thread I noticed how the conversation only really juggled between Eli, Yolk, you, and me. Everyone else looked to have gotten a sort of free-pass
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The VC but also the thing about how he went saying itās possible Dum was activated but revolutionary protected Eli
I think Iām saying this for the third time but too lazy to search my own posts rn
Town players canāt be activated two consecutive nights, meaning if Dum was activated last night, they canāt be activated tonight, according to the OP
Dum assumed at first that they werenāt activated because Eli was still alive
Eli suggested maybe the revolutionary passive protection kicked in and Dum was activated
Knowing that a townie was activated means the townie will know they canāt act the next night, so why would a wolf point out to a townie that they were probably still activated? And assuming Eli is telling the truth about the card wipe, we know Dum at least wiped Eliās card, so Dum was definitely activated. A wolf would want the townie to think they hadnāt been activated, because it would basically force the townie to write another article that would amount to nothing because they couldnāt be activated. A wolf wouldnāt want the townie to know for sure theyād been activated if their ability didnāt give clear feedback in the first place, which was apparent by Dumās action claim.
Iāve been periodically giving reads on everyone but nobody is saying anything about it except for cloned and I guess leetic, and both of them focused on my Leafia push yesterday and completely ignored that I was scumreading her. Both of them have said today that I was info pushing an obvtown with no indication that I ever thought she was scum. I beg to differ, but I guess if anyone wants to sift through my ISO to determine how I reached that conclusion and where I said it, thatās up to you.
over 300 posts hmmmmmmm /s
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Also I really donāt understand why Cloned is saying Iām blaming everyone else for the Leafia wagon
I was the only vote on her until Eli decided to self-pres so likeā¦ It isnāt even Eliās fault because he tied the wagons in the hopes he wouldnāt die. Itās entirely my fault, I take full blame for it, and the only thing that really annoys me is that nobody was willing to hard push for a wagon that wasnāt just a player who basically hadnāt done anything up to that point.
Like leetic faults me for pushing and voting a high poster (Leafia) instead of an inactive, but from my experience voting out inactives is a very good way for town to lose the game
Do you want me to quote my last large read post lol
I even bookmarked it so I can find it myself
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I see, Iāll look into your defense but also look more into Leetic. I just donāt like the way theyāve conducted themselves thus far. Aside from your attempt to pushing forward conversation in the thread I find that both Leetic and Clonedcheese also have tried to do the same thing. If Iām being honest I am also on the lookout for potential mafia members that are trying to hijack thread discussion.
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I mean I can read your ISO, but that might be helpful for people to reference
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