Grande Idea - Endgame - Mafia wins

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#1264

id be inclined to think carbon is scum kp as well but
it’s possible that some sort of mafia doctor or BPV is in the game, which wazza abuses to add more funny KP roles

this is speculation ofc but its not out of the relam of possibility, especially if nobody claims the protect

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#1265

ok im convinced im not voting willow today gg

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#1266

I compiled a list of potential-carbon roles, but they’re also a pain to format/I did a mixture of roletexts and links, so like, the main conclusion is that no, carbon’s role isn’t exclusively town, and I just want it to be known that there are mafia and neutral versions of the role that I think would have similar effects (maybe with modifiers). that being said, carbon not even knowing her rolename is probably. still town. I think she usually knows her fake better than her real role as mafia

relevant roles if people were interested:

town:

  • the queen elizabeth/queen mary roles that marluna posted earlier (town/maf versions of 1x dayvig)
  • s!l@yor (town 1x public dayvig)
  • deputaly (town 1x dayvig, what carbon claimed – but after zoe suggested it?)
  • deputy’s deputy (town 1x dayvig)
  • american deputy (town infinite shot dayvig/execution rig/night vig)

mafia:

  • eruption: pompeii in hong kong (mafia public dayvig. infinite uses)
  • traitor deputy (mafia 1x dayvig)

neutral:

  • marksman (neutral dayvig, loses dayvig if shoot someone not “ghoulish”)
  • sorcerer (neutral 1x dayvig but reveals your role publicly + weird vote stuff – unlikely unless modifiers)

but based on the flavor being a revolver, I think probably “in broad daylight” of all the deputy roles just means it’s announced, and that limits carbon to either town roles or mafia’s traitor deputy

#1267

no I’m implying that I didn’t heal myself if I had the ability to do so

#1268

what type of action feedback do vigs get here

#1269

i swear to fucking god

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#1270

typically very little

#1271

…and somehow I still glazed over this one

or wait this is one of the infinite deputy roles with death guilt clauses right

#1272

Ok i tried isoing them in the champs game but after around 20 posts it’s clear that in a champs setting willow feels the need to try extra hard when in a more casual fol game they kinda just coast and point out things that catch their eye

I was going to try to hardsolve the people in my poe yday (willow / hazard / zoe) but i only got to willow before i lost the desire to do so

I iso’d them in stratagem 15 and april showers third where they were town in both. In as3 they had multiple posts that were reminiscent of their interaction with meow in that they showed similar energy and vibes that to me came off as town being cautiously excited that they may have found a wolf.

I wanted to compare this to how they play as wolf (hence why i asked them for a wolfgame) but at this point this read is probably good enough

So i think willow town probably

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#1273

ah

#1274

i guess if willow isnt town she could be like a serial killer or something

#1275

nah it can’t be this one
they would’ve been executed due to guilt

#1276

mfw sk in 12p

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#1277

I have to go now, but doc shouldn’t out if they did protect me or whatever bc I roleblocked willow last night

assumed she’d know her action didn’t go through, but I guess not

#1278

i mean it wouldn’t be my first nk win!
or my second!

#1279

oh

#1280

what
why

#1281

why I was asking if it was likely if mafia-willow would be the factional-carrier of the team

#1282

(and yes this is not standard on this site)

#1283

didnt you literally townread me