Ice Cream Mafia 2 - MAFIA VICTORY

[Leafia]

I really should’ve realized it by how he was treating my slot, but I thought it was paranoia from how I pocketed him last game.

[Zwischenzug]

Game End Flavor

With the last of the non-poisoned ice cream destroyed, the ice cream shop was forced to shutter. Meta Knight’s ice cream became the dominant ice cream shop of the town.

While saying goodbye to the now-abandoned ice cream shop, someone finds pieces of a transcription of a call…

@Litten

“You? Me? We could be a great team. Instead of me tormenting some random folks, I could torment other random folks, if a warehouse full of photos were to mysteriously go up in flames”

@Kirby

“Sounds perfect. We have a deal? I will incinerate every picture tonight.”

@Litten

“We have a deal. Right before the shop closes I’ll swap the label of the ice cream they suspect is poisoned with one that they trust.”

@Kirby

“I need a very special type of ice cream. You see, Meta Knight’s Ice Cream shop is but a distraction - in reality, my goal was always to steal the magical machinery hidden in the basement of this shop. You know how the different flavors grant people abilities? That is no coincidence.”

“While I was alive, I tried to convince them to create an extremely concentrated form of their flavors that grant Protection Votes … but they obstinately refused. Such a flavor would likely grant protection against death, as I would hold the lion’s share of the protective power and could heal myself with it every night, before I sleep.”

[Zwischenzug]

Breaking news:

Kirby has resurrected! He seems to have fled, and taken some defunct machinery from the bottom of the ice cream shop with him. A certain orange-colored cat was seen going with him…

[Litten]

@Aleph

simple
if i play the game im wolf
if i dont im probably town

i feel more compulsion to play as wolf given i have people to disappoint with wolf lol

this is, part of what made me think I was wrong on chomp, even though I voted them, their behavior was absolutely bizzare with how they were treating the end game and it’s also why I was so terrified and looked at aleph there

[Leafia]

Thd fact that you werd alivd in lylo was probably the biggest hint that it was Zone but I can’t say I blame you. It couldn’t have been easy and it was enjoyabls to watch too even if Zons did howl there by saying sleeping wasn’t a good idea. Zone deserves this victory. You did a great job Zone.

This game is proof that you need to be careful when unpairing people. I’m not even upset about losing this one. In fact, I’m proud that the wolves feared me enough to kill me N2. After all, the better you sre, the earlier you die. ^_^

[Litten]

It was absolutely bad to sleep there I think, with zone being the mafia, I think we would lose

[Zugzwang]

@Leafia

Zons did howl there by saying sleeping wasn’t a good idea

in this setup sleeping is IMO often not a good idea

[Zone_Q11]

Oh, no. My reaction was very much real.

Had I not randed Mafia, then my distrust on you would’ve been caused because you put so much paranoia into me that I subconsciously remember to not trust you.

[Zugzwang]

@Zugzwang

in this setup sleeping is IMO often not a good idea

in fact I was surprised no one considered executing in F6 in the first ice cream mafia

[Garfooled]

This game was me tripping every EoD because I didn’t backread and have terrible time management

[Zugzwang]

BTW: I’d like opinions on the setup (both whether I should run a similar setup in the same vein as this and ice cream mafia 1, and any changes that should be made)

[Zone_Q11]

@Leafia

even if Zons did howl there by saying sleeping wasn’t a good idea.

Oh, no. It genuinely was not a good idea.
What I said prior was legit:

@Zone_Q11

Because mechanically, if Chomps is Town and we ML today, then the ML would still give Town some chance of victory compared to NL.

Because NL forces D7 F3 LYLO where the 1 death is determined by the Mafia. If we ML Today, then we’d gamble N6 to have D7 F3 LYLO again, but then decided by Town’s hands.

Sleeping would result in a dead Ishmael and a genuine F3 with Litten, Chomps, and Zone.

But Litten had already townread Ishmael, so like: It would still result in Chomps getting mis-executed.

[Litten]

A f3 with me zone and chomps I’m pretty sure I actually win

[Litten]

I thought sleeping was bad because you kill me but I have a pretty solid way of working through f3’s

[Leafia]

Maybe. Maybe not.

[Litten]

Aka, if I think chomps is town, I can always go back to looking at you and see town and then looking at aleph. If I see chomp is town I’m going to go much harder on you

[Aleph (Ishmael)]

i think killing in f4 was the correct call but i think sleeping would’ve been a non-incorrect call

[Zone_Q11]

To be fair, if we were to reach F3 with those set of players, then I wouldn’t care about the game anymore. Because by then my hidden agenda would’ve already been achieved.

[Zugzwang]

@Zugzwang

BTW: I’d like opinions on the setup (both whether I should run a similar setup in the same vein as this and ice cream mafia 1, and any changes that should be made)

my current most prominent thoughts are:

• Protection shouldn’t work on the same player twice in a row, or there should be some other way to prevent town from making a player ~entirely unkillable
• The ability to nightkill wolves (plus no night flips) doesn’t actually do anything and honestly just made it harder to write the flavor - I think night flips should be alignment-only
• Whispers went almost entirely unused, because the risk of spewing yourself non-PR outweighed the chance to coordinate things with PRs, and once the PRs were dead there was little incentive to whisper anything

[Marshal]

you basically always kill f4 yah, sleep there accomplishes little. Even with hindsight, chomps being town means you gain almost nothing from sleeping anyways since he woulda just been killed anyways