Kaguya-sama: Love is War Mafia - Game Over - Town & Hitman Win

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#464

Vulgard (5): Zorvo, Magnus, catbae, Jackrito, Demisha
Leafia (2): lol, Jaiden
Jaiden (2): Phraze, thepigeonnyc
Kanave (2): Vulgard, Leafia
Magnus (1): Kanave

I hate using this as an argument, but if you actually think this is a hit, then you’re being lazy. The gamestate really sucks, and it sucks largely because of the overfocus on my slot. Half the game has expressed a wolfread on me in some shape or form, and I severely doubt it’s just incorrect villagers doing this; there are most likely some wolves throwing suspicion into the mix, too. If you’re going to yeet me (I realize I’m saying this in the middle of day 1, but still) you’re going to get virtually no information from day 1 because it’ll all be comprised of people calling me a wolf and voting for me. Maybe you should assess slots other than me and then perhaps return to my wagon at EoD? If you do that, at least this day phase won’t be as worthless as it otherwise will.

I’ve already given my thoughts on people I have actual reads on. As for my wagon, I unfortunately think it’s mostly comprised of villagers at the moment, though that makes sense because wolves would love nothing more than to incite suspicion of me and then let the town do the rest. In my last wolfgame here (poor approximations of catgirls) we did exactly that on day 1 and there were like 5 villagers being wagoned without any of these wagons having a wolf majority.

I’d like to solve slots like Beancat, Bunny, etc., but as they continue not to post, it continues to be impossible. Pigeon’s three posts slightly lean villa, but just like with Phraze, I don’t have any solid reason to believe this.

#465

By the way, this is an actual strawman.

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#466

I don’t particularly disagree with Jack on this, for reference:

I’d say these types of responses in of it themselves have more of a panic ring to them

My whole argument was that people started focusing on you and only then you did (as you mentioned in that quote) actually start doing reads with thorough explanations

That being said however, I am somewhat struggling to distinguish whether you’re a panicking wolf or an over-defensive town mainly because I agree with Jack that as a town:

But at the same time I can somewhat understand the reaction when you take into account the vote count (which by the way it’s a bit too high given that we still have over 10/15 hours to talk so im gonna take my vote off of Vulgard for now), im going to retract my full wolfread on you but i’ll still keep an eye because I do have a heavy lean still

@catbae when you’re around, could you please give all of this a look and give me your opinion on Vulgard? You’re one of my few hard town reads atm

#467

UNVOTE Vulgard

#468

Like I said, im only taking my vote off because I don’t know what count is hammer and 5 votes on you at once was a bit too high for comfort, but if it was lower i’d keep it on because im still not very convinced of you

#469

erm. i feel like i’m gonna have to resort to obnoxious analogies if this keeps up.

zorvo can literally still mech resolve you before pressuring you as well as after. pressuring you doesn’t change that. pressuring does help potentially non-mechanically resolve you, though. what i’m asking is how you think pressuring you, and having a way to resolve you, are contradictory at all.

#470

okay bud please get your middle school debate terms in order it’s reducto ad absurdum. it’s not me saying that’s what you said. it’s an extension of the implications of what you said.

#471

I’m honestly not sure why you still care about the answer, considering the fact I’ve changed my mind since then, but I suppose I can still explain.

Zorvo claims they can self-resolve anyone. It’s discussed for a bit. I’m floated as a good choice for that. Zorvo supports the idea.
Catbae mildly suspects me.
Zorvo proceeds to push me and calls it pressure.

I found it weird that he’d push me despite suggesting me as a good target to mechanically resolve like this.

#472

If you’re trying to tilt me for no reason then you’ll need to try harder.

#473

I’m top wagon, nobody townreads me, what am I supposed to do other than defend myself and give more content? Honestly not sure what you and others expected when you voted me and made me a wagon. That’s how things are supposed to go.

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#474

If me not understanding your point makes you resort to obnoxious analogies, then it doesn’t sound like a problem with me.

#475

It’s a 17er, hammer’s at 8 votes.

#476

9 votes. I can’t count.

#477

we’re getting nowhere. this post makes it look like you read nothing i said before the part you quoted.

#478

lol

#479

im crying about it

#480

if it’s literal wolf behiavour why is it not d1 issue
do we not need to kill wolves

#481

oh my god.

#482

always a two way street

#483

wait lol why does this have votes lmao